Nav system disclaimer

KCPrius · 03-03-2005, 10:21 AM

Thanks Doc....I'll check that just as soon as I can get her out of the car!!

In her old car, she'd fill up at about 300 miles , after the low fuel light had been on longer than I thought comfortable(the old car took just under 20 gallons to fill). Yesterday she said she had about 300 miles on this tank of gas, and wondered when she should fill it. I asked her how many dots were on the fuel gauge. She said there were 3 showing. I said she was good for a few more days, but to stop for gas when the one dot started flashing. I have a feeling she's going to love this car even more at that first fill up.

geckoboi78 · 03-03-2005, 10:27 AM

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We just picked up my wife's 05 Black Prius on Monday, which has package 6. Every time she starts the car, the nav system disclaimer pops up and you have to press \"agree\" to get past it. Is there some way to disable this disclaimer...I mean, how many times do you have to be told that Toyota isn't responsible if you get lost????
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the coasteltech product not only bypass' the "I agree" but it also allows for you to do other things while driving that are normally locked out.

ThetaSigma99 · 03-03-2005, 11:22 AM

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B/C some people don't have that much sense, and even those that do would happily sue Toyota for untold millions when they careened off the road. That disclaimer isn't for intended to help us, it's intended to try to deflect some of Toyota's liability. To those of us with sense approaching that of a goose it's an annoyance, but little more than that.[/b]

Ironically, yesterday my Prius' navigation system actually directed me to drive off the side of a bridge so I could turn onto the underpass below. Obviously, I ignored its guidance.

mikepaul · 03-03-2005, 12:07 PM

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Ironically, yesterday my Prius' navigation system actually directed me to drive off the side of a bridge so I could turn onto the underpass below. Obviously, I ignored its guidance.

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Around here, it's a lot of 'proposed' roads that never were built but seemed like a good place to send me. I see black lines leading away from the current road, but not even a dirt road exists...

KCPrius · 03-03-2005, 03:18 PM

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Ironically, yesterday my Prius' navigation system actually directed me to drive off the side of a bridge so I could turn onto the underpass below. Obviously, I ignored its guidance.

Sadly, I suppose the reasons for the disclaimers can be explained below....this is from the NHTSA list of vehicle complaints. Someone took time to send this to their attention as a safety matter:

Make : TOYOTA Model : PRIUS Year : 2004
Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0
Actaully, I guess I do understand the disclaimer better,

ODI ID Number : 10051428 Date of Failure:
December 10, 2003
VIN : JTDKB20U840...
Component: OTHER
Summary:
I HAVE A 2004 PRIUS. (YOUR SUSTEM DOES NOT SHOW A PRIUS, SO I CHECKED THE TOYOTA MATRIX BOX, SINCE THE SYSTEM MADE ME CHECK SOME MODEL BOX.)THE TOYOTA NAVIGATION SYSTEM IS DEFECTIVE--IT DIRECTS TURNS ONTO NON-EXITENT ROADS. PEOPLE WILL DIE WHEN THEY FOLLOW THE SYSTEM'S DIRECTIONS AND DRIVE OFF ROAD AND CRASH. LETTERS TO TOYOTA HAVE GONE UNANSWERED. BY TELEPHONE TOYOTA ADVISES THAT THIS IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM.

My apoligies to geese everywhere.

ThetaSigma99 · 03-03-2005, 05:58 PM

I assume the GPS system only does two-dimensional coordinates (i.e. latitude and longtitude), right? So it can't tell the difference between a road that is on the same level as the car or a road that is 100 feet down? If this is the case, perhaps a future GPS system might be able to handle 3-dimensional coordinates?

KCPrius · 03-04-2005, 02:10 PM

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Ironically, yesterday my Prius' navigation system actually directed me to drive off the side of a bridge so I could turn onto the underpass below. Obviously, I ignored its guidance.

Around here, it's a lot of 'proposed' roads that never were built but seemed like a good place to send me. I see black lines leading away from the current road, but not even a dirt road exists...

I noticed when coming home in my wifes new Prius that it showed those black lines as well...since I wasn't driving, I had the opportunity to check - and there were indeed small dirt roads that didn't intersect the road we were on, but they most certainly DID exist. I would never have noticed them had I been driving.

Charles Suitt · 03-04-2005, 02:57 PM

Seems some may expect the NAV system to be a substitute for good common sense - Oh, I suppose they're only kidding

One thing I enjoy about the NAV system is its ability to "adjust" when I arbitrarily change the route while enroute. After I have selected one of the three route choices offered after I have entered a "destination," but decide to go another way. Within about 200 ft., my NAV system readjusts and changes its guidance.

And another PLUS is the "entertainment" content when the NAV lady's responses to queries seem unrelated, even innane. I just say it again until she does what I ask.

03-03-2005, 10:21 AM	#11
KCPrius Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 105 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Thanks Doc....I'll check that just as soon as I can get her out of the car!! In her old car, she'd fill up at about 300 miles , after the low fuel light had been on longer than I thought comfortable(the old car took just under 20 gallons to fill). Yesterday she said she had about 300 miles on this tank of gas, and wondered when she should fill it. I asked her how many dots were on the fuel gauge. She said there were 3 showing. I said she was good for a few more days, but to stop for gas when the one dot started flashing. I have a feeling she's going to love this car even more at that first fill up. __________________ 05 Salsa Red package 4 - purchased November 04. 05 Black package 6 - purchased March 05.

03-04-2005, 02:57 PM	#18
Charles Suitt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 1,622 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: Nav system discalimer Seems some may expect the NAV system to be a substitute for good common sense - Oh, I suppose they're only kidding One thing I enjoy about the NAV system is its ability to "adjust" when I arbitrarily change the route while enroute. After I have selected one of the three route choices offered after I have entered a "destination," but decide to go another way. Within about 200 ft., my NAV system readjusts and changes its guidance. And another PLUS is the "entertainment" content when the NAV lady's responses to queries seem unrelated, even innane. I just say it again until she does what I ask. __________________ Charles Suitt Dallas Texas 2007 Touring Edition (Former Prius: 2004)

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03-03-2005, 05:58 PM	#16
ThetaSigma99 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: White Plains, NY Posts: 40 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I assume the GPS system only does two-dimensional coordinates (i.e. latitude and longtitude), right? So it can't tell the difference between a road that is on the same level as the car or a road that is 100 feet down? If this is the case, perhaps a future GPS system might be able to handle 3-dimensional coordinates?