another new document for Prius... ENERGY

[john1701a]

Toyota now use the term "Power Booster" instead of Inverter. This is exclusive only to HSD and I believe Ford full hybrid does not have the booster.

I'm aware of the new "Booster" term... but there's still the issue of the changing to AC and second inverter for the A/C motor and the DC/DC converter for the 12V. "Inverter" does make it clear that neither Ford nor Honda have one, and it is an industry standard term. Remember, besides avoiding complexities, we want to make the document unique... unlike anything anyone else has ever published so we can freely use it as we see fit.

As for the 10kW, that's what I've encountered in the notes I've come across. I'd love to say it's higher... just to spite the competition. Got any official documentation stating the higher value? I know that 29kW is the high-end for electric draw, but does that actually go through MG1?

Lastly, I debated whether or not mention the 12-volt. It got left off when I finally realized it was just another electric "device" drawing power, much like the Steering & A/C.

[john1701a]

On the diagram, you need to show the flow to the wheels also. Evan's suggestion re using a "circular" format, with the PSD at the centre, is worth trying.

I intentionally de-emphasized the PSD, which includes the wheels... since that's what the other "for newbies" document addresses.

As for the image, be my guest. This link provides the source for the images. You are currently looking at an entire week's worth of deep thought. That's what I finally decided would work best in the grand scheme of things. A "circular" format could be misinterpretted with the actual PSD. It could also be considered a copyright violation, since I have seen other publications referring to it that way.

[rick57]

Looks good to me John. Don't want to get to technical for some people. Would just confuse them. If they wanted more info later,then they could be directed to another page with more details or here where there are lots of people willing to fill them in on the specifics. Just my opinion,

[usbseawolf2000]

Lastly, I debated whether or not mention the 12-volt. It got left off when I finally realized it was just another electric "device" drawing power, much like the Steering & A/C.

Not really. 12V lead acid battery also power headlight, dome light, computer, etc.. in certain situations. It is a storage device so, I think it should be included.

As for MG1 power rating, I have no official document. It has been awhile since I did info digging. Maybe the master tech can help.

[Godiva]

If I understood how the car worked more, I'd do it in a an "Inspiration" doc rather than Word but whatever you're comfortable with. Inspiration is available for the P.C. (http://www.inspiration.com)

[altaskier]

I have two suggestions regarding the ICE on the diagram:[list]

[efusco]

The arrow has to go to the ICE too since MG1 is how the ice is started.

I do think it might be more in keeping with the KISS concept to eliminate the kW completely. You clearly are trying to deemphesis technical stuff, and the concept of kW is well beyond the average non-techy person.

As far as a diagram there's not going to be any 'copyright' violation just using a circular design...no more than there would be using a non-circular design if your information was already infringing upon an existing concept.

I still agree that the 12v should at least be included with a unidirectional arrow--there are way too many people who have questions about "the battery" or "My battery is dead" questions not truely appreciating the fact that there is more than one and that they work completely differently.

[john1701a]

> 12V lead acid battery also power headlight

No, that power for the HID headlights originates from the battery-pack. Several sunset photo shoots have proven that. I'll shut off the Prius at 6 bars. Leave the lights on for 45 minutes to an hour. Then when I start the engine back up, it's only at 2 bars.

I'm still against showing the 12V battery alone. It simply doesn't make any sense, since there are other devices that draw electricity too. So, you've convinced me to add a new object (with a one-way arrow). The label will include "12-Volt Auxilliary Battery, Electric Steering, Electric A/C".

[geminirat]

Give me some credit Dan. I have opend the link in three different browsers and cannot enlarge it so I can read it. Why am I the only one having trouble? Even if I could read it I'm not sure how much I would understand anyway.

[kidtwist]

Give me some credit Dan. I have opend the link in three different browsers and cannot enlarge it so I can read it. Why am I the only one having trouble? Even if I could read it I'm not sure how much I would understand anyway.

After clicking on the link scroll to the bottom of the page and download it. You can download it as a PDF or as a Word document.