How would you respond to this naysayer?

**Tideland Prius** · 06-14-2005, 05:20 PM

http://www.autobeyours.com/05%20Prius.htm

http://www.autobeyours.com/gifs/05%20Prius/

Here they are. Take note of the HV battery.

**Tideland Prius** · 06-14-2005, 05:23 PM

True but hey, ReallyLily deserves the right to know too =)

Actually those pics are pretty good. You can see what's underneath the centre console, where the rear heater ducts come from etc.

ReallyLily · 06-14-2005, 05:23 PM

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NO No No no... You don't want to convert that person... they are worth letting go. I don't want a moron associated to a Prius.[/b]

She wasn't the one who was thinking of buying one - it was another innocent bystander, and this woman was trying to tell her why she shouldn't even consider it. I don't want the innocent bystander to lose out because of some moron putting false fears into her!

Mystery Squid · 06-14-2005, 05:40 PM

Tell her, her real concern should be the poisonous gases within the sealed headlights (after all, why are they sealed right?)... Which, of course, can violently combust if you leave your lights on too long...

:mrgreen:

jayman · 06-14-2005, 06:36 PM

I see this is another Urban Legend that just won't die. Like the $15,000 Prius front brake job.

Uh, $115 is what my local dealer quoted me.

Any rear end crash severe enough to rupture the NiMH assembly and shower you with electrolyte gell probably isn't survivable.

Oh, speaking of the Rear End Of Doom, how about all those Ford Crown Victoria passenger cars and Ford Interceptor police cars? I guess Ford didn't learn anything from the Pinto lawsuit, as even their 2005 Crown Vic and police Interceptor still have the fuel tank between the rear bumper and the axle.

Apparently, around a dozen police officers have been burned to death after being rear ended.

Much like all the hype over Prius stalling. I actually had it happen to me, and was quite p***** off when it happened. But just today in the Winnipeg Free Press it seems Ford is recalling around 260,000 Ford Super Duty gasoline motor trucks due to a software glitch.

Causes "unexpected" motor stalling. Usually will not restart right away, have to wait and try a few times. Hmmmm.

oly_57mpg · 06-14-2005, 06:39 PM

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True but hey, ReallyLily deserves the right to know too =)
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I was worried that no one would understand my comment...

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She wasn't the one who was thinking of buying one - it was another innocent bystander, and this woman was trying to tell her why she shouldn't even consider it. I don't want the innocent bystander to lose out because of some moron putting false fears into her!
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Doh! Right, of course. Why didn't I see that!

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Tell her, her real concern should be the poisonous gases within the sealed headlights (after all, why are they sealed right?)... Which, of course, can violently combust if you leave your lights on too long...
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Or the exhaust from an H2 Hummer
Or the little green men that visit...

tochatihu · 06-14-2005, 08:38 PM

The electrolyte in the Prius HV NiMH battery is alkaline, not acidic. Potassium hydroxide. When Toyota resealed the NHW11 batteries, they neutralized any released electrolyte with a boric acid solution. It has already been mentioned that the possibility of a battery electrolyte release in a crash appears low because of physical containment. If it happens anyway, and you are fresh out of boric acid, plain water should do. This is mentioned in the emergency responder guides if I recall correctly. It would not hurt to post links to those, if somebody has them handy.

DaveinOlyWA · 06-14-2005, 08:57 PM

well if she wont believe the truth about the battery acid, why dont you tell her, that if she got into an accident in a Prius, her chances of being alive to feel that acid burn are much higher than nearly every other car on the road today.

several posts here describing accidents involving Priuses should help to convince her of that

**Tideland Prius** · 06-14-2005, 09:18 PM

oh oh I know I know. Keep those plastic rims on the wheels. Without them, the car will be too light and will roll over if a semi passes it.

jayman · 06-15-2005, 12:14 PM

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oh oh I know I know. Keep those plastic rims on the wheels. Without them, the car will be too light and will roll over if a semi passes it.

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06-14-2005, 06:36 PM	#15
jayman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Posts: 6,448 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 4	Re: How would you respond to this naysayer? I see this is another Urban Legend that just won't die. Like the $15,000 Prius front brake job. Uh, $115 is what my local dealer quoted me. Any rear end crash severe enough to rupture the NiMH assembly and shower you with electrolyte gell probably isn't survivable. Oh, speaking of the Rear End Of Doom, how about all those Ford Crown Victoria passenger cars and Ford Interceptor police cars? I guess Ford didn't learn anything from the Pinto lawsuit, as even their 2005 Crown Vic and police Interceptor still have the fuel tank between the rear bumper and the axle. Apparently, around a dozen police officers have been burned to death after being rear ended. Much like all the hype over Prius stalling. I actually had it happen to me, and was quite p***** off when it happened. But just today in the Winnipeg Free Press it seems Ford is recalling around 260,000 Ford Super Duty gasoline motor trucks due to a software glitch. Causes "unexpected" motor stalling. Usually will not restart right away, have to wait and try a few times. Hmmmm.

06-14-2005, 08:38 PM	#17
tochatihu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kunming Yunnan China Posts: 1,823 My Car: 2001 Prius Package: Pioneer #1 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 7	Re: How would you respond to this naysayer? The electrolyte in the Prius HV NiMH battery is alkaline, not acidic. Potassium hydroxide. When Toyota resealed the NHW11 batteries, they neutralized any released electrolyte with a boric acid solution. It has already been mentioned that the possibility of a battery electrolyte release in a crash appears low because of physical containment. If it happens anyway, and you are fresh out of boric acid, plain water should do. This is mentioned in the emergency responder guides if I recall correctly. It would not hurt to post links to those, if somebody has them handy.

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06-14-2005, 05:20 PM	#11
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 13,920 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 11	http://www.autobeyours.com/05%20Prius.htm http://www.autobeyours.com/gifs/05%20Prius/ Here they are. Take note of the HV battery.

06-14-2005, 05:23 PM	#12
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 13,920 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 11	True but hey, ReallyLily deserves the right to know too =) Actually those pics are pretty good. You can see what's underneath the centre console, where the rear heater ducts come from etc.

06-14-2005, 05:40 PM	#14
Mystery Squid Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Tell her, her real concern should be the poisonous gases within the sealed headlights (after all, why are they sealed right?)... Which, of course, can violently combust if you leave your lights on too long... :mrgreen:

06-14-2005, 08:57 PM	#18
DaveinOlyWA Opps !! I Did it Again!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 9,667 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 5	well if she wont believe the truth about the battery acid, why dont you tell her, that if she got into an accident in a Prius, her chances of being alive to feel that acid burn are much higher than nearly every other car on the road today. several posts here describing accidents involving Priuses should help to convince her of that

06-14-2005, 09:18 PM	#19
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 13,920 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 11	oh oh I know I know. Keep those plastic rims on the wheels. Without them, the car will be too light and will roll over if a semi passes it.