How would you respond to this naysayer?

ReallyLily · 06-14-2005, 02:16 PM

I read another board where someone asked about hybrid vehicles. One person posted this (good grammar too!):

The battery compartment scares Mark the Honda hybrid the battery is huge and he has seen problems of corrosion. Have someone rear end you and you'll end up wearing some acid.

I'm pretty darned sure she hasn't a clue what she's talking about, but I haven't actually read up on the details or what my batteries are made of...anybody have a zingy response for me to post with the technical reason why she's nuts?

**efusco** · 06-14-2005, 02:22 PM

There is no danger of that in the Prius (I don't know about the hondas)... The batteries are in individual cells and the 'acid' is a gel, not a liquid.

ReallyLily · 06-14-2005, 02:25 PM

thanks! I'd hate for a whole website to be mislead by that woman's post

DaveinOlyWA · 06-14-2005, 02:39 PM

ask Frank Hudon about it. his wife was rear ended in her '04. the collision was so great that the tire compartment cover's edge was pushed down and into the battery pack casing actually breaking the case.

there was no leakage. no one electrocuted, in fact the battery pack did exactly as it was designed to do in a collision.

oly_57mpg · 06-14-2005, 02:41 PM

First things first: this person is an idiot.

The batteries that are used for the electric motor are sealed nickel-metal hydride. Not the lead acid batteries that are used on the 12v side. BIG FARKING DIFFERENCE.

The batteries that are used in the Prius are SEALED. Not only are the batteries SEALED, but there is a lot of reinforcement around the batteries to prevent any occupants from 'wearing some acid.' I'd be more concerned of the propellant used to deploy the airbags! That stuff is probably worse than the sealed nickel-metal hydride batteries!

Sealed nickel-metal hydride batteries have been used in consumer products since 1988. 19 freaking 88. That's 17 years of technological advances.

An extreme minimal amount of actual electrolyte is used in the battery; that is to say, they are mostly solid, not liquid like the 12 lead acid battery. Think of 139 "C" sized batteries crammed in the car. Do you let children play with toys that contain batteries? Uh, yeah. Have they 'worn' acid from repeatedly dropping their toys? No.

If this person doesn't like the idea of batteries, good for them, they are stupid and will probably purchase some crap product from the big four. More power to them. They have Google... But apparently not a brain cell to use it.

Mystery Squid · 06-14-2005, 02:42 PM

How would "I" respond?

YOU STUPID (insert offensive noun here)!!

:mrgreen:

smasho · 06-14-2005, 02:48 PM

Ahh the ignorant (or is that the idiotic)

1. Prius (and I believe Honda) battery packs composed of a number of NiMH cells. These are very similar to the rechargable AA batteries you might put in your digital camera. (Please no flames, I know they're prismatics but the concept and chemistry are much the same) They contain no free liquid electrolyte - it's more of a paste.

2. Every car carries a virtual BOMBThe gasoline you carry is far more dangerous than the battery.
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ReallyLily · 06-14-2005, 02:51 PM

Ha ha ha! These responses are so funny! I'm going to add some of these snippets to the thread where I saw this comment....I'd just hate for someone who wanted a hybrid to be turned off by that poster's blatant misinformation.

**Tideland Prius** · 06-14-2005, 05:13 PM

In that case, she should leave earth. It's a volatile place ya'know? Batteries exploding, plants exploding (the building, not the flora), bombs exploding.

I suppose she's gonna say, hit something head-on and "you'll end up wearing some acid" from the 12V battery at the front right?

You want to see huge? look at the Escape Hybrid's battery =). Actually, tell her to find the HV battery on the Prius. 10 points she say "it's somewhere at the back" and that's where it ends.

Anyway, I digress. The batteries are made of NiMH. They are sealed and are protected. All systems will shut down if a crash occurs. Hmm, where's that pic somebody posted of a totalled Salsa Red Prius. I'll go look for it to show you how much damage it can really take.

oly_57mpg · 06-14-2005, 05:18 PM

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Hmm, where's that pic somebody posted of a totalled Salsa Red Prius. I'll go look for it to show you how much damage it can really take.
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NO No No no... You don't want to convert that person... they are worth letting go. I don't want a moron associated to a Prius.

06-14-2005, 02:16 PM	#1
ReallyLily Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Down by the beach, CA Posts: 14 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	How would you respond to this naysayer? I read another board where someone asked about hybrid vehicles. One person posted this (good grammar too!): The battery compartment scares Mark the Honda hybrid the battery is huge and he has seen problems of corrosion. Have someone rear end you and you'll end up wearing some acid. I'm pretty darned sure she hasn't a clue what she's talking about, but I haven't actually read up on the details or what my batteries are made of...anybody have a zingy response for me to post with the technical reason why she's nuts?

06-14-2005, 02:25 PM	#3
ReallyLily Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Down by the beach, CA Posts: 14 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: How would you respond to this naysayer? thanks! I'd hate for a whole website to be mislead by that woman's post

06-14-2005, 02:48 PM	#7
smasho Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 43 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: How would you respond to this naysayer? Ahh the ignorant (or is that the idiotic) 1. Prius (and I believe Honda) battery packs composed of a number of NiMH cells. These are very similar to the rechargable AA batteries you might put in your digital camera. (Please no flames, I know they're prismatics but the concept and chemistry are much the same) They contain no free liquid electrolyte - it's more of a paste. 2. Every car carries a virtual BOMBThe gasoline you carry is far more dangerous than the battery. [/color]

06-14-2005, 02:51 PM	#8
ReallyLily Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Down by the beach, CA Posts: 14 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: How would you respond to this naysayer? Ha ha ha! These responses are so funny! I'm going to add some of these snippets to the thread where I saw this comment....I'd just hate for someone who wanted a hybrid to be turned off by that poster's blatant misinformation.

06-14-2005, 05:13 PM	#9
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 13,576 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 11	In that case, she should leave earth. It's a volatile place ya'know? Batteries exploding, plants exploding (the building, not the flora), bombs exploding. I suppose she's gonna say, hit something head-on and "you'll end up wearing some acid" from the 12V battery at the front right? You want to see huge? look at the Escape Hybrid's battery =). Actually, tell her to find the HV battery on the Prius. 10 points she say "it's somewhere at the back" and that's where it ends. Anyway, I digress. The batteries are made of NiMH. They are sealed and are protected. All systems will shut down if a crash occurs. Hmm, where's that pic somebody posted of a totalled Salsa Red Prius. I'll go look for it to show you how much damage it can really take. __________________ 2005 Tideland Pearl Premium Package as of 25th Oct 2004 VVT-i Emblem, Sport Pedals, OEM All-Weather Mats, Cargo Mat, EV Mod, JDM Prius Interior Footwell Lighting, DICE iPod Integration Kit, LED licence plate lights, Phillips X-Treme Power H4 2008 smart fortwo passion coupé as of 28th Apr 2008 Fogs, dash pods, leather, rubber mats, Brabus handbrake, LED licence plate lights & dome lamp

06-14-2005, 02:22 PM	#2
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 13,382 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 1 Time in 1 Post TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 23	There is no danger of that in the Prius (I don't know about the hondas)... The batteries are in individual cells and the 'acid' is a gel, not a liquid.

06-14-2005, 02:39 PM	#4
DaveinOlyWA Opps !! I Did it Again!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 9,382 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 4	ask Frank Hudon about it. his wife was rear ended in her '04. the collision was so great that the tire compartment cover's edge was pushed down and into the battery pack casing actually breaking the case. there was no leakage. no one electrocuted, in fact the battery pack did exactly as it was designed to do in a collision.

06-14-2005, 02:41 PM	#5
oly_57mpg Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Olympia, Portland, Seattle... Posts: 334 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	First things first: this person is an idiot. The batteries that are used for the electric motor are sealed nickel-metal hydride. Not the lead acid batteries that are used on the 12v side. BIG FARKING DIFFERENCE. The batteries that are used in the Prius are SEALED. Not only are the batteries SEALED, but there is a lot of reinforcement around the batteries to prevent any occupants from 'wearing some acid.' I'd be more concerned of the propellant used to deploy the airbags! That stuff is probably worse than the sealed nickel-metal hydride batteries! Sealed nickel-metal hydride batteries have been used in consumer products since 1988. 19 freaking 88. That's 17 years of technological advances. An extreme minimal amount of actual electrolyte is used in the battery; that is to say, they are mostly solid, not liquid like the 12 lead acid battery. Think of 139 "C" sized batteries crammed in the car. Do you let children play with toys that contain batteries? Uh, yeah. Have they 'worn' acid from repeatedly dropping their toys? No. If this person doesn't like the idea of batteries, good for them, they are stupid and will probably purchase some crap product from the big four. More power to them. They have Google... But apparently not a brain cell to use it.

06-14-2005, 02:42 PM	#6
Mystery Squid Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	How would "I" respond? YOU STUPID (insert offensive noun here)!! :mrgreen:

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