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Anyone have a used or new Prius air box (air filter housing and mass air flow sensor) for sale cheap?
mebay i can help,i work for a toyota dealership,i see many items & questions i can help with.cold air intake system or air box assy.
what do u prefer? i can be reached @ rempie@toyotaofnewnan.com cheers mate
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:58 PM   #12
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I echo the request for dyno results to confirm the gain, if any. When it comes to my daily driver, I do not mess with the power train.

I went to DYNO day for diesel trucks. The trucks were pumping out 900-1100HP. They suck a lot of air when running full throttle. We tested a truck with a KN airtube and filter and the same truck with a stock filter and tube and finally with no tube and filter. There was no gain in HP.
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mebay i can help,i work for a toyota dealership,i see many items & questions i can help with.cold air intake system or air box assy.
what do u prefer? i can be reached @ rempie@toyotaofnewnan.com cheers mate
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I went to DYNO day for diesel trucks. The trucks were pumping out 900-1100HP. They suck a lot of air when running full throttle. We tested a truck with a KN airtube and filter and the same truck with a stock filter and tube and finally with no tube and filter. There was no gain in HP.
Regarding the NEW diesel trucks (particularly the GM Duramax systems) this information is correct but regarding nearly any other high HP application, the addition of a high flow intake system has been proven to increase HP due to intake and/or air filter restrictions. I've ran and participated in a large number of dyno day events and have seen this personally. My knowledge on diesels is more limited but my roomate runs a 2006 GMC Duramax and I get the diesel specific info from him as he has been a hard core race addict for quite some time with a stable of high HP vehicles.
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I went to DYNO day for diesel trucks. The trucks were pumping out 900-1100HP.
I highly doubt that. Far more likely is that you're confusing lb-ft of torque with horsepower.
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I highly doubt that. Far more likely is that you're confusing lb-ft of torque with horsepower.
Aye, generally speaking 900+hp daily driven diesels are fairly rare but some hit the numbers. I used to street race back in the day and an associated friend, Adam Winslet, now toys with diesels and gets into that kind of HP range. Here is a listing of the results of a dyno day back in '05 here in Sacramento. I think THIS is the 8as well?

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NAME HP TQ TRUCK
JOE STRONGONE 339 607 05 CHEVY
KEVIN COLLINS 346 680 05 DODGE
TOM COLESANTI 453 863 00 DODGE
ROY RESENDES 429 872 03 DODGE
SHAWN RANSDELL 301 642 02 FORD
RICK YOUNG 461 897 03 CHEVY
NEIL GEHREKE 407 900 01 DODGE
CHRIS PONCIA 388 764 05 FORD
CHRIS PONCIA 338 606 97 FORD W/M
JACOB OVERHOLT 155 320 90 DODGE
RICK NEWLAND 565 1015 05 DODGE
RICK NEWLAND 550 1149 98 DODGE
ROBERT SADERLUND 330 759 98 DODGE
SCOTT GEORGE 229 567 92 DODGE
MARTIN PONCELAS 380 546 03 FORD W/M
DON DOAN 490 746 96 FORD W/M
ROB JACKSON 333 690 DODGE
GERALD WARMERDAM 396 739 03 DODGE
JACK WARMERDAM 396 738 96 DODGE
CLINT LAVIN 328 480 04 FORD
KEVIN URLEY 337 735 99 DODGE
CHRIS DOUGLAS 239 485 97 DODGE
DENNIS VIZGANDIS 357 816 95 DODGE
CORY DOW 351 657 00 DODGE W/M
RAYMOND TRIJUILLO 419 837 01 DODGE
PETE SPENCER 238 580 97 DODGE
JOHN QUARESMA 366 694 03 CHEBY
JIM PULLING 206 408 01 DODGE
BROCK ADLEY 450 830 99 DODGE
JERMEY TORGERSEN 567 1125 93 DODGE
JEFF MEITROTT 588 1138 98 DODGE
JEFF MEITROTT 667 1259 98 DODGE W/M
SCOTT VORHEES 859 1328 97 DODGE W/M
ADAM WINSLET 722 1329 DODGE NOS
CODY HILL 353 783 95 DODGE
DRAKE SWEET 432 751 05 DODGE
T.J. MCPHERSON 463 932 01 DODGE W/M
DAVE MURAKAMI 345 678 97 FORD
MATT OHAIR 287 655 00 FORD
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Hey guys,
I want to get a K&N filter because they are great and last forever. I've had one on my old buick GN for about 90k miles. I'm not expecting to pick up any hp or mpg, I just hate buying a new filter every 4-5 months. But will the added air flow confuse the MAF? I've heard quirky things like this can happen to modded Toyotas, but my source was a dealer service advisor. Anybody using a K&N on a stock Prius?
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RAKIMB17 - yep, i believe that some of the toyota reps do say that the K&N air filters DO confuse and contaminate the sensors. I do recommend that you stay within the factory parameters, yeah its a bit of a pain to replace them, but i think it's relatively easy to do so on our prius's.

I recognize your GN as an awesome car, my friend has a completely restored GNX, and that is a BEAST! We might race against each other, but i have a feeling that he might take me if i dont SQUEEZE! NO, not the prius, my 96 Grand Sport.

that's my 2 cents and YES, i am running a K&N filter on my 96.

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There are a few Prius with K&N air filters. The engine performance and fuel economy are not improved, but there is a potential savings in terms of paper filter replacement

In the 2001-2003 model the air filter is directly over the MAF, so it is important to re-oil *lightly* after cleaning to avoid oil drips onto the MAF. In the new model Prius the engine air filter is relocated, so this may be less of a concern.

On all Prius (or, all cars) there is the potential for the K&N to pass more particles. It seems wise to perform used engine oil analyses and keep ttrack of silicon. If that goes high, we can be pretty sure that the K&N is not right for you.
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RAKIMB17 - yep, i believe that some of the toyota reps do say that the K&N air filters DO confuse and contaminate the sensors. I do recommend that you stay within the factory parameters, yeah its a bit of a pain to replace them, but i think it's relatively easy to do so on our prius's.

I recognize your GN as an awesome car, my friend has a completely restored GNX, and that is a BEAST! We might race against each other, but i have a feeling that he might take me if i dont SQUEEZE! NO, not the prius, my 96 Grand Sport.

that's my 2 cents and YES, i am running a K&N filter on my 96.

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A GNX? Put that baby away for a few more years. It'll be pushing $60-$70k. I wouldn't race him. Your GS is FWD? If your buddy has a true GNX then he has a ladder bar that helps him put more power to the pavement. If he will give you 3 car legnths then maybe you can take him.
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