Another Hymotion PHEV in consumer's hands

[ibcs]

You guys are killing me waiting for my date. At least I'm learning while I'm waiting.

---Kent

[TheForce]

The lights on my video appeared bright because it was night when I took the video so the LEDs would look brighter for the camera.

I don't really know about the beeps since I'm able to use my own EV button. The only time I hear mine beep is when in EV mode and reaching 34+mph or when I try to enter EV mode too soon. The pack could be entering EV too soon and causing the beeps but I would think the pack would be smart enough to know that it could not try EV mode until the speed reached 34mph or below.

[Fibb222]

Man what an awesome thing.... you lucky bums!

[boxer93]

Jay,
Here are some real numbers from a small trip tonight. I programmed the xgauge Current trip Avg MPG. 5 mile trip to gym. Car was sitting 7 hours before starting, fWT was 112. Made it 1.5 miles on battery before ICE start. Had some EV stretches after S1. Then the last .1 mile driveway in I was regen/coasting but ICE was still running (I assume to get to S3/S4) Trip Avg MPG 70. Return trip about 45 minutes later. fWT was 126 at start. EV mode was more consistent. Avg MPG 123. The road is 30-40 MPH with 6 traffic signals. I also had 1 passenger. outside temperature was about 77.
I can see a EBH in my future. I'll try the grill block tomorrow, now that I can see the Temp. I can also see why you did the thermostat hack. I'm going to keep any mods basic on my car.
Chris

[max9952001]

Originally Posted by boxer93

I didn't get a valid number. Mine came up as #97 (invalid payment) When I redid it, it was around #200. Mine was initially scheduled mid July then set back to mid august. Good luck with your install. Erin did state they were booked through the end of the year.
Chris

Thank you - I'm going to see if they can provide an update via phone this next week. Its good to know the reservation number may not match the product quantity. I know they've done double digit installs at the install location here in MN. I've ordered a Scanguage now too and will try to get familiar with it prior to my install. I am also reading up on CANVIEW.

Thanks for leading the way on this guys!

[hobbit]

I would suggest trying to augment some of those MPG numbers with
an estimate of how many KWh went into the car from the wall, too...
perhaps work up a GGE figure too, such as about 10 - 12 KWh of
propulsive power roughly equating what you get from a gallon of
gas in a Prius.
.
This is the factor that all the people ballyhooing about "100 MPG!"
NEVER take into account. That just misleads the public.
.
_H*

[TheForce]

OK so what would be the proper way to inform the public on the actual MPG? If you take what I have used in kWh and used your 10-12kWh per gallon then so far I have used about 7.4 gallons of gas just in electricity on the low end plus another approximate 3 gallons of actual gas. This is over about 500 miles. So 10.4 gallons of gas at 500 miles that would be about 48MPGe? or am I doing some math wrong?

I think a better way is to just say it in term of price per gallon equivalent. I have calculated the price I pay or electricity and the price for gas and I come up with that I'm paying the equivalent of about $1.60 per gallon of gas.

[boxer93]

I was going to try and hook up my killawatt meter this coming week to see what my round trip commute uses in kWh. The L5 owners manual does state to not hook a meter in the charging circuit and I don't have a separate meter for this. I understand what you are asking that the MPG take into account the kWhs used. I need to go look up the GGE acronym. It's like we need a MP<energy equivalent> and convert petrol to <Energy equivalent> . Interesting food for thought.
Chris

[ctbering]

Excuse my naivete but I have some questions:
Is the Hymotion battery and installation kit expected to come down in price as the system becomes more available? Why is there only a 3 year warranty? Wouldn't just make sense to purchase a 2010 Prius than purchase this kit for current 2004-2008 Prius owners, being resale Prius value is top dollar versus purchase the kit The kit voids the Toyota warranty (I think)? Once the warranty period with the kit expires then hat happens if there is a problem with the hybrid battery? Do the buyers really know the competence and life history of the kit? How will the kit battery perform in the dead of a midwestern winter? I congratulate the buyers of the kit and wish everyone the best of luck with it. The kit buyers may be well above the curve regarding hybrids just like the early Prius buyers. It is a very appealing feature for all of us Prius owners.

[Zythryn]

Originally Posted by ctbering

Wouldn't just make sense to purchase a 2010 Prius than purchase this kit for current 2004-2008 Prius owners, being resale Prius value is top dollar versus purchase the kit The kit voids the Toyota warranty (I think)?

Financial sense? Perhaps. But then I wouldn't have the PHEV NOW
And, I wouldn't be actively rewarding and encouraging PHEV technology.
The Kit does not void the general warranty.
And hymotion has said "if a vehicle's OEM denies a Hymotion customer warranty service due to a problem caused by a Hymotion module, A123 will pay for the otherwise warranted repair. "

Yes, part of wanting these now is being an early adopter.
Part, in my case, is also wanting to do anything I can to lessen our dependance on oil, and cut my personal co2 pollution without cutting down my living standards.