Grounding kit for the Prius - would it make sense?

[rookie]

I am really a newbie on the Hybrid technology (and do not own a Prius yet but am ordering one on Monday) so this might be obvious but...

I have had great results with installation of grouding kit into my 02 Nissan Altima. Engine (I4) runs smoother, my tranny shifting has improved (I can not figure that one out but there U go) and my lights are definitely brighter.

On this electricity focused car as the Prius is - would it make sense? I know now that Nissan was cheap with engine grouding in the Altima, I would only hope that is not the case with Toyota in this highly complex vehicle? Anyone know how well all this stuff is grounded?

[DanMan32]

Well, considering that the DC/DC converter is connected to the engine/Power split device and providing 80A+, I doubt there would be a ground problem. But it can't hurt either to add to it.

[Areometer]

I asked Sun Automobile this exact same question nearly a year ago and they asked their engineers in Japan - no definite answer still as of today. I would love to know too but I don't intend to ground my Prius yet.

If any one wants to try a kit (not for free, but for a deep discount) on their Prius, let me know. Although I don't know exactly what size will suit the Prius...... Probably a Small kit.

[Rick Grahn]

Sorry to be so dense, but what is a grounding kit (in simple terms, please)?

Thanks

[Areometer]

You can read about it here: Hyper Ground System

[DaveG]

My "Bullshit" detector is running at overload on that one...

Definately one for those who believe that a $100 "monster" cable is gonna make their home theatre system look/sound better than a reasonable quality $30 cable.

Keep your money in your pocket.

[Areometer]

Grounding cable like the Hyper Ground System has been offered by car companies in Japan as JDM factory options (eg: both Nissan & Mitsubishi offer HGS for their Fairlady & EVO in Japan). Its effects on these & many other vehicles have been dyno-tested to prove that it can improve HP & torque in CERTAIN MODELS and has been used first & extensively by Rally teams for years.

But no one says that HGS will do any good or bad to the Prius or any hybrid vehicle as I know of no one who has tried it on a Prius yet. not even Sun Auto in Japan.

On our HGS page, I have links to two 3rd-party magazines which perform dynotests on HGS-equipped vehicles. But of course your bullshit detector is so much more authoritative so why bother checking them out.

[DaveG]

You are correct!

Hey, if people wanna waste their money, they're more than welcome to - but installing it on a Prius is a waste of time. It's not about horsepower, torque, or any other antiquated throwback to regular internal combustion engines...

Dave

[Areometer]

Sorry, I thought you condemned HGS in general for all vehicles while ignoring all proven dynotests. My bad. Guess what? Let me donate one new HGS to one lucky (yet bold) member of this forum for free to try on his/her 04-05 Prius. If he/she observes no improvement or even a downgrade, return it to me & tell others here. If he/she feels improvement & wants to keep it, buy it for 50% less our regular retail ($109) & tell others here.

I need proof that you do use it on your Prius so I need lots of digital snap shots on your HGS-equipped Prius please. Also, upon receipt of the item, please wait no more than 2 weeks to actually install it. You should also disconnect the 12v battery post installation to reset the ECU (if such a suggestion even makes sense for the Prius). If there is a difference that it makes, you should notice it within 1 week. And that is when I expect a report from you. You should also have some knowledge about where to connect the HGS to on the Prius.

HGS supposedly enhances one or more of the followings for normal non-hybrid vehicles:

- Faster engine start-up
- More stable idling
- Smoother and faster throttle response
- Increase low & middle engine torque
- Better milage
- Better CPU operation
- Cleaner exhaust gas
- Brighter headlight output
- Improve car audio sound quality

More HGS info:

>> Sigma Auto Hyper Ground System (HGS) Page

>> Sun Automobile USA HGS Page

>> Sun Automobile Japan HotEarth Page



So I expect you to do a before & after comparison to your best ability for the above. No, I don't expect you to use a LUX meter to measure the headlight output nor do I expect you to bring your Prius to be dynotested before & after although these would be nice. :wink:

Now, the only person who will lose his money is most likely ME. I charge the lucky person who decides not to keep the HGS nothing (except the initial $0.50 which even that is refundable), no S&H, not even return freight (I will issue a call tag to retreive it back from you). US 04-05 Prius owner residing in the US only please. 18 or older.

First person who PM me here gets this new HGS. You will then need to specify a color (Blue, Red, Yellow or Smoke), submit your full address, tel. no & your CC# via our Sigma Auto SSL Order Form (don't PM me your CC#, it's unsafe!). I will charge you $0.50 USD just to make sure that you have submitted a valid CC#. This is to ensure us that you don't just sell it on eBay or give to your lil' cousin to use on his WRX. Even this $0.50 is refundable after the experiment is concluded (ie: you want to return it in new condition or you want to keep it & buy it for 50% less our retail). You must make a decision as to whether to keep (buy) it or return it in its new condition within 2 months from the day that you receive the item. Or I will charge you the product in full value + S&H ($120.00 USD). So if you will be out of town soon, don't participate. This offer is not opened forever, I will run it for a week from today on to see if any one is interested.

Here's the needed disclaimer, if the HGS does you or your Prius any harm, Me, Sigma Auto & Sun Automobile aren't responsible for it. I won't compensate for your loss. This is a risk that you're taking here. It is entirely your decision whether you want to temper with this highly sophisticated vehicle or not.

[Tempus]

Sounds like this has become a Sales Offer an should probably be moved out of this forum.