Custom Enginer PHEV (8kWh)

[krousdb]

Some other observations..... On the highway with CC set to 55MPH, the SoC camps out at 70.5 - 71.0% and BTV is at 234V. On what seems to be flat terrain, instantaneous FE is 110-130MPG with both converters running. RPM is at 1184 which is SHM territory.

[krousdb]

Originally Posted by imwoody36

Thanks for sharing Dan! ( and thanks for your regular maintenance business last month) By comparison I wish to report we installed a Plug In Conversions kit last week here at AutoBeYours.com The 13500 dollar kit arrived well packed 6 weeks after we paid for it as expected and promised.
Missing installation diagrams were emailed by Kim at Plug-in Conversions quickly.
We spent a day locating the Brusa charger profile software, and the rs232 to usb adapter. finally resolving to use an old laptop with an rs232 plug.
we spent another half a day locating the 70 dollar tool to crimp Anderson connectors.
Ewert Energy overnighted a missing Hybrid energy module ( that thing to make the prius go 70mph in all electric mode).
They then emailed the missing software to allow the driver to turn the system on.
( fortunately I owned a Candapter required to use said software on a laptop).
the first 7 miles were over 255 mpg. then an engine racing issue came up.
selecting normal phev mode resolved this for now.
I expect to post more results as they are available....probably on a new thread.
I believe picc is experiencing growing pains, and will give them the benefit of the doubt to improve the final product.

Steve,
It would be great to have another thread to compare results with this one! Also, can you also post PICC Tech info, similar to the following thread?
Enginer PHEV Technical Information

Looking forward to your results.

[TheForce]

18A is able to sustain about 30-35mph on level roads.

[Dan.]

Originally Posted by krousdb

Driving Conditions
Moderate rain, and wet roads.
Ambient Temp = 68F
Winds = Calm
Windows Closed
Fan set to level 2, no AC.

Did you manage to look at CCL or OEM Battery temps during your commute?

Originally Posted by krousdb

Some other observations..... On the highway with CC set to 55MPH, the SoC camps out at 70.5 - 71.0% and BTV is at 234V. On what seems to be flat terrain, instantaneous FE is 110-130MPG with both converters running. RPM is at 1184 which is SHM territory.

Indeed. Since the kit "pollutes" the BTA reading with extra 18A of regen, it may not be easy to see SHM. You would really need to check MG1 RPM which is a nut I haven't yet cracked on the SGII. But what I'm finding is if you hold your throttle constant ("gps" gauge) you should hit SHM sooner or later. The other ways to tell if you've hit it (outside of gps) is to look for IGN=14, TPS=17, but I'm almost certian you would be in that territory by this point.

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[mrbigh]

Originally Posted by imwoody36

I believe picc is experiencing growing pains, and will give them the benefit of the doubt to improve the final product.

Steve, thank you very much for sharing the experiences you'r having with the PICC kit. I can wait reading the future chapters of the install and use but please, open another thread dedicated to this PICC Kit. This one is solely for the krousdb Custom Enginer PHEV (8kWh)
Please insert a link to your new thread for people to fallow.
Thank you

[krousdb]

Originally Posted by Dan.

Did you manage to look at CCL or OEM Battery temps during your commute?11011011

Both came up blank. I have version 3.17 which shows BTV just fine.

[krousdb]

Originally Posted by MJFrog

I understand what you're saying. I wasn't asking for design limitations...you're going well beyond that yourself. I know the kit won't take me all the way to work in EV mode. I'm looking for the quick trip to the drug store or grocery store and back...maybe 2-3 miles one way, and not more than about 30mph.

I'll ask my question again:
Short distance being...to the limit of the charge in the Enginer pack. And I have a 2kwh pack.

Your current kit will do that. When starting your car, engage EV mode and wait until you get 8 green bars on the battery icon. Then take your short drive. If you get below 6 blue bars, pull off to the side of the road and wait until you get 8 green. Repeat as necessary.

[cabledave]

Originally Posted by krousdb

Your current kit will do that. When starting your car, engage EV mode and wait until you get 8 green bars on the battery icon. Then take your short drive. If you get below 6 blue bars, pull off to the side of the road and wait until you get 8 green. Repeat as necessary.

I would only add, after experiencing 90 to 100 degree temps here in San Diego the last few days, that the above applies only to the point where your HV battery temp exceeds the temp allowed for EV.

It has been impossible to get the system to EV during these high temps. People should be aware of this.

[Dan.]

Originally Posted by cabledave

I would only add, after experiencing 90 to 100 degree temps here in San Diego the last few days, that the above applies only to the point where your HV battery temp exceeds the temp allowed for EV.

That "point" is 45 degC (113 defF). I've got a meat thermometer in the trunk of my car, you can put a digital one there if you like. It usually reads about 98-102F. The alternative to the meat thermometer is to get a gauge that will let you read battery temp directly. Any CAN tool should do it. My CAN tool usually gives a starting battery temp fairly low. The hottest STARTING temp I've seen (with the meat thermometer over 102F) was a reading of 41C (105F). I've seen operation temps get to 50c, and I know that the battery FAN will come on somewhere north of 50c.

Once it gets hot, if you park it and leave it, it will stay hot for a LONG time. I like to monitor battery temp and if it gets over 43C I crank up the A/C, aim the vents to the battery and really baby the whole battery system. Regen seems to generate a LOT more heat that assist does btw.

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[Dan.]

Originally Posted by krousdb

Your current kit will do that. When starting your car, engage EV mode and wait until you get 8 green bars on the battery icon. Then take your short drive. If you get below 6 blue bars, pull off to the side of the road and wait until you get 8 green. Repeat as necessary.

If you have a CAN tool and monitor the battery volts, as long as your in EV and above 200v you should be able to tool along. As you press the throttle the battery volts will drop so under 4 bars, EV becomes pretty anemic. Also, EV-Mode will kick out at a SOC (viewable with a CAN tool) of 45%.

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