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Old 06-29-2006, 07:51 AM   #1
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However pleased I am with my 2006 Prius at this point; here are the things that I would like to see in the Prius 3:

Distinctive design, still setting it apart from other Toyotas and other vehicles.
2 versions: Hatchbach AND Station Wagon
Optional 4WD for both versions
Better handling!!!
Less influental to side wind
Less cabin noise
Wider, perhaps even longer body - but not higher
ICE with more torque and power - but same or lower fuel consumption
Better acceleration, todays figure cut by at least 25%
Larger trunk
Towing possible
Larger battery capacity / new battery technology
Plug In possible

...this list is by no means final, but represents what I would like to see in the new car.
Feel free to add or discuss this list.

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Old 07-07-2006, 03:47 PM   #2
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So, to recap - you want the moon on a stick?!

A load more power, more fuel economy, and a bigger car. Right.

My wish list is better fuel economy, better fuel economy, and better fuel economy, I think. And a steering wheel that moves in and out.

Could achieve the power and FE aims though by having a diesel version... Yaris diesel has 90bhp and does 60mpg (UK) and it's not even a hybrid.

By the way, towing would still be fundamentally impossible. When demanding high torque all the time, the battery would run out, and you'd be running solely on ICE. If you have a big enough ICE to provide high torque all the time, you'd not get any hybrid FE benefits...

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Old 07-07-2006, 04:18 PM   #3
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UK imperial gallons?
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Yes, UK gallons eg 4.5 litres. US gallon = 3.7 litres. I exchanged my Seat Ibiza diesel for a Prius, it was getting pretty much the same FE but for slightly more emissions. Much smaller car, but sportier. Everyone in the UK is wondering about diesel hybrids, and apparently Peugot Citroen are making one...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(molgrips @ Jul 7 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]282674[/snapback]</div>
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So, to recap - you want the moon on a stick?!

A load more power, more fuel economy, and a bigger car. Right.[/b]
So to recap, isn't that exactly what was done between the Gen I and Gen II Prius?
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:23 PM   #6
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AnOldHouse @ Jul 7 2006, 04:59 PM) [snapback]282734[/snapback]</div>
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So to recap, isn't that exactly what was done between the Gen I and Gen II Prius? [/b]
My thoughts exactly!

Though, I don't really care if there's a lot more power. Might quiet a few nay-sayers if it did 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds, so I won't be sad if it can do that.

I don't really want it bigger...the Camry serves that roll as far as I'm concerned.

Improvements in Handling, cross-wind handling, and creature-comforts on the interior would be very much appreciated. I really would like the driver's seat to go back 2" more and be electric 6+ way adjustable...if you wanna make it Prius-like make it recognize each driver by his/her SKS fob and automatically adjust when you unlock the door with the SKS.

I want another 20-25% increase in FE and a 50% (minimum) increase in Electric only capacity with a 25% decrease in battery size/weight and a 25% increase in max. all-electric speed.

I want NAV tied terrain learning and terrain-mapping. I want radar controlled Cruise-control that builds in anticipatory driving up to ~1/4 mile. As cars slow the Prius begins gentle regen braking depending upon the closing speed to the next vehicle.

I want it to be a flex fuel vehicle and maybe even have a bio-diesel version available.

I want body weight reduced by 10%.

I want a plug-in hybrid option.

I want exhaust heat tied into ICE and battery warming for winter driving.

I want a true 1000 mile on a tank capacity.

The moon on a stick would be just fine with me.
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Yes, a larger fuel tank would be nice.

Factory side molding

Factory privacy glass

Factory mudflaps

Electric seats with memory

Memory for the electric mirrors

Factory engine block heater

MFD video input

Front view camera (and/or factory parking marker)


How about a force field that repels rocks and a blast gun to disable gas guzzlers and slowpokes!
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Leg room...Leg room...Leg room...

Seats...Seats...Seats...

Buy...Buy...Buy...
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- Gas tank without the bladder (must be another way to get PZEV rating)

- even more extensive use of lightweight material. See if they can knock 20kg off.. maybe even 50kg. (cause you know more equipment is gonna add the weight back anyway)

- telescoping steering wheel

- multi-adjustment FRONT seats (not just the driver). Why did you cheap out on that bit?

- keep the length and space. I think it's one of the best combination of exterior dimensions and interior dimensions. Perhaps larger wheels might help increase the ground clearance a tad.

- Mount the spare tyre underneath, outside the car but in a covered compartment. IOW, where it is today but instead of accessing by removing a ton of equipment, just have the access point underneath the car. Might be more expensive if gas struts were used so that the wheel doesn't just fall out when you open the hatch door underneath.

- thicker fabric/more padding on the door panels and centre console box cover. If they can design the ES with plastic doors (the new one doesn't have any leather on the door panel) and only leather on the armrest, they can do the same (with fabric or leather) on the Prius.

- power rear sunshade for the hatch window.

- better foglights

- LED DRLs
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mssmith95 @ Jul 7 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]282754[/snapback]</div>
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How about a force field that repels rocks and a blast gun to disable gas guzzlers and slowpokes!
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I want a rear firing missle to blast those tailgating SUVs and Trucks.
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