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| Prius Technical Discussion This is a discussion on RFID Enabling Your Front Door within the Prius Technical Discussion forums, part of the Toyota Prius Forums category; Here is a DIY project for making a house door lock open using an RFID reader. RFID Enabling Your Front ... |
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | Here is a DIY project for making a house door lock open using an RFID reader. RFID Enabling Your Front Door I'd like to explore modifying this to work with my Prius's FOB. Does anyone have any pointers on what kind of RFID reader would work with Toyota's keyless entry? I know something like this could be used for evil purposes, ie theft of the car, so there probably isn't too much public information out there. But that said, does anyone have any thoughts? |
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | I believe Toyota uses TI's RFID system. Check out this site: http://rfidanalysis.org/ A team at Johns Hopkins University successfully hacked the TI RFID system. Just beware of security risks if you are using this for your front door. |
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ScottY @ Oct 4 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]327771[/snapback]</div> Quote:
I found on TI's RFID site: RFID/EPC Tehcnology Solutions that you can order evaluation kits. That might be interesting if I knew which one to order and if in fact TI did make the RFID for the Prius. Maybe I should try cracking open my key fob and see what's actually written on the RFID. Anyone have any tips on opening the FOB without destroying it? One thing though, the link above seems to be talking about passive RFIDs. Aren't the RFIDs we use on the Prius active? | |
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | I THINK the coding algorithms for passive and active RFID are the same, just the hardware that's different. Active RFID tag has a power source like a battery (our key fob is an active RFID tag), while passive RFID tag does not. Don't have time to look at the datasheet on TI's website.. at work now... maybe tonight... Looks like the higher frequency kit is the way to go. Everybody in the RFID industry is moving toward higher frequencies, there gotta be some advantages right? One I could think of is smaller antenna, which means smaller RFID tag size. Keep researching on this man, you have the coolest mod I've seen on a Prius so far. And I've been always interested in RFID stuff. It'll be interesting to see what you come up with.
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jkusnetz @ Oct 4 2006, 11:42 AM) [snapback]327841[/snapback]</div> Quote:
There is a sticker next to the battery which I may be able to use to hunt down more info. MDL B31EG FCC ID: MOZB31EG IC:2584A-B31EG TOKAI RIKA CO.,LTD. I did a search fo B31EG and found someone trying to get an ebay FOB repgrogrammed at the dealer. He says it's transmitting at 313MHZ with 540ms bursts of data that his original FOB put out. I assume he must have some sort of reader to figure that out. | |
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jkusnetz @ Oct 4 2006, 01:32 PM) [snapback]327942[/snapback]</div> Quote:
I also tried the FCC ID search didn't seem to want to turn up anything. | |
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | Thread back from the dead! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jkusnetz @ Oct 4 2006, 01:46 PM) [snapback]327952[/snapback]</div> Quote:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports...nericSearch.cfm And search for PENASAT2. Not the FOB's FCC ID. Since the fob is active and the FCC report didn't mention testing anything in the kHz range, you really want to read about the RFID readers. The RFID readers in the Prius use 134.2 kHz. The FOB's do not seem to have a rolling code or encryption. If you want to use your FOB to open the door to your house, then you just need to map the FOB's signature to some sort of authenticating system/micro-controller/whatever. | |
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My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 4 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 16 | If you really want to go over the top and do it up right, here's what you want: https://www.hqs.sbt.siemens.com/fs/content/...10_30_010en.htm And while you're at it, I'm sure your HVAC could use an overhaul: http://www.sbt.siemens.com/bau/products/so...sight_apps2.asp |
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My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 3 | The OP has a great idea. But it's been done already a hundred times over :P http://www.smarthome.com/_/Door_Locks_Acce.../nav.aspx?No=72 . . . . . and then some. |
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