2002 Toyota Prius, Rattles then shuts off

fastestchess · 11-08-2006, 10:27 PM

Hello,

I am new to this forum, hopefully I can get some help from you guys. I tried to start my car today and it was completely dead. I read on the forums that the 12 volt battery needs to be changed. Ran to the dealer and bought the 12 volt battery ($133 plus tax). Installed it and now it wont crank.

It cracks but rattles and shuts off. Brake light shows up and so does engine light. I check my code and shows P1300 which is a ignitier circuit malfunction.

Does anyone here know what might be the problem? My warranty is up, my car has 78K on it. I am afraid that it might be the hybrid battery?

Thanks
Ed

hobbit · 11-09-2006, 12:56 AM

Well, no, it's most likely an ignitor circuit, not the battery, like
the car's trying to tell you. Check the AM2 fuse and IG2 relay, for
starters...
.
_H*

fastestchess · 11-09-2006, 01:20 AM

Where are those located at and what are they? AM2 fuse and IG2 relay?

Thanks
Ed

tochatihu · 11-09-2006, 09:57 AM

[attachmentid=5640]They provide 12 volts to your circuits that may be ill. See attached diagram. Hobbit may not have it nailed on the head this time because if all 4 ignitors were down you would not even get this bad startup. I suggested in your other thread on this that one ignitor itself may be disconnected or ?

fastestchess · 11-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Well, skipped work today just for this. Still trying to think what might be the problem.

I check bother of the relays you told me, and both were fine.

This morning, it started up, stayed on for a couple of seconds, then shut off. Then after that it just won't start again.

statultra · 11-09-2006, 11:45 AM

what does the multi information display show? the car with the exclamation point? or main battery warning?

this may happen a lot if the vehicle sustains a engine problem or high voltage battery isnt working correctly.

what does the multi information display show? the car with the exclamation point? or main battery warning?

this may happen a lot if the vehicle sustains a engine problem or high voltage battery isnt working correctly.

fastestchess · 11-09-2006, 04:42 PM

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what does the multi information display show? the car with the exclamation point? or main battery warning?

this may happen a lot if the vehicle sustains a engine problem or high voltage battery isnt working correctly.

what does the multi information display show? the car with the exclamation point? or main battery warning?

this may happen a lot if the vehicle sustains a engine problem or high voltage battery isnt working correctly.
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It shows both. The exclamation point and the battery warning. It just wont crank up anymore, shows both lights and doesnt show the ready sign.

I finally had it towed to SB Toyota. I was told they will have a look at it by Saturday, I can't wait that long but I guess there that busy.

So your saying that it might have a engine problem or voltage battery isnt working? Are those covered under warranty?

Anybody know what might be the problem, this uncertantity is eating me up!

David Beale · 11-09-2006, 04:51 PM

You're sure there is gas in the tank?

fastestchess · 11-10-2006, 12:55 AM

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You're sure there is gas in the tank?
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Yes, shows two bars.

statultra · 11-11-2006, 02:17 PM

if the car shows MAIN in red on the screen then it wouldnt start no matter what, its your high voltage battery that has a fault, make sure you consult your toyota dealer if you still have warranty, it might be HV battery premature failure or a failure on toyotas part.

if MAIN battery warning icon is on the MFD then theres a major fault with the HV battery, i would first check hte service plug. and check your engine also for any problems, as those can drain the HV battery, i suggest you do not start it until you find hte problem ( only if u have the MAIN batt warning )

i had this problem with my 1st prius, video is on youtube with the icons, and i created a charger and charged the hv battery ( it was a salvage car )

i have a very strong feeling your HV battery has a problem, along with a engine problem, take it to the toyota dealer , it may be covered under the warranty for the hybrid system

11-09-2006, 09:57 AM	#4
tochatihu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kunming Yunnan China Posts: 1,823 My Car: 2001 Prius Package: Pioneer #1 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 7	[attachmentid=5640]They provide 12 volts to your circuits that may be ill. See attached diagram. Hobbit may not have it nailed on the head this time because if all 4 ignitors were down you would not even get this bad startup. I suggested in your other thread on this that one ignitor itself may be disconnected or ? Attached Thumbnails

11-11-2006, 02:17 PM	#10
statultra uber-Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cape coral, FL Posts: 575 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	if the car shows MAIN in red on the screen then it wouldnt start no matter what, its your high voltage battery that has a fault, make sure you consult your toyota dealer if you still have warranty, it might be HV battery premature failure or a failure on toyotas part. if MAIN battery warning icon is on the MFD then theres a major fault with the HV battery, i would first check hte service plug. and check your engine also for any problems, as those can drain the HV battery, i suggest you do not start it until you find hte problem ( only if u have the MAIN batt warning ) i had this problem with my 1st prius, video is on youtube with the icons, and i created a charger and charged the hv battery ( it was a salvage car ) i have a very strong feeling your HV battery has a problem, along with a engine problem, take it to the toyota dealer , it may be covered under the warranty for the hybrid system __________________ 2005 Toyota Prius Hybrid Package 9 2001 Toyota Prius 2005 Honda Accord Hybrid 3.0 V6

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11-08-2006, 10:27 PM	#1
fastestchess Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Hello, I am new to this forum, hopefully I can get some help from you guys. I tried to start my car today and it was completely dead. I read on the forums that the 12 volt battery needs to be changed. Ran to the dealer and bought the 12 volt battery ($133 plus tax). Installed it and now it wont crank. It cracks but rattles and shuts off. Brake light shows up and so does engine light. I check my code and shows P1300 which is a ignitier circuit malfunction. Does anyone here know what might be the problem? My warranty is up, my car has 78K on it. I am afraid that it might be the hybrid battery? Thanks Ed

11-09-2006, 12:56 AM	#2
hobbit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bahstahn Posts: 2,989 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Well, no, it's most likely an ignitor circuit, not the battery, like the car's trying to tell you. Check the AM2 fuse and IG2 relay, for starters... . _H*

11-09-2006, 01:20 AM	#3
fastestchess Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Where are those located at and what are they? AM2 fuse and IG2 relay? Thanks Ed

11-09-2006, 10:53 AM	#5
fastestchess Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Well, skipped work today just for this. Still trying to think what might be the problem. I check bother of the relays you told me, and both were fine. This morning, it started up, stayed on for a couple of seconds, then shut off. Then after that it just won't start again.

11-09-2006, 11:45 AM	#6
statultra uber-Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cape coral, FL Posts: 575 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	what does the multi information display show? the car with the exclamation point? or main battery warning? this may happen a lot if the vehicle sustains a engine problem or high voltage battery isnt working correctly. what does the multi information display show? the car with the exclamation point? or main battery warning? this may happen a lot if the vehicle sustains a engine problem or high voltage battery isnt working correctly.

11-09-2006, 04:51 PM	#8
David Beale Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 1,556 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	You're sure there is gas in the tank?