Is there any way to "plug the car" and charge the hybrid battery

sebapisa · 03-02-2007, 04:42 PM

It seems like the battery level stays between 1/2 full to 3/4 full all the time, always in the blue. I've only seen the green bars in a long downhill.
Is there any way to force a full charge to the battery? Plug it to an outlet? Maybe I should have asked the dealer to fully charge it before I drove away.
Will my gas mileage improve with a fully charged battery?
Thanks for the information.

ohgreys · 03-02-2007, 04:46 PM

I'm not sure about a plug-in mod but you should know that the blue 1/4-3/4 full battery is A-ok and operating as it should be. As far as I know there is no MPG advantage to having a full battery.

**efusco** · 03-02-2007, 04:53 PM

the battery is kept as close to 60% SOC as possible while still taking advantage of the battery to provide or store power as needed. This is what allows the battery to last the life of the car.

There is no practial way to plug it in without adding extra batteries and charging those off the grid. There's also little advantage to doing so as the capacity is so small. Doing so would decrease the life of the battery.

D0li0 · 03-02-2007, 05:30 PM

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It seems like the battery level stays between 1/2 full to 3/4 full all the time, always in the blue. I've only seen the green bars in a long downhill.
Is there any way to force a full charge to the battery? Plug it to an outlet? Maybe I should have asked the dealer to fully charge it before I drove away.
Will my gas mileage improve with a fully charged battery?
Thanks for the information.
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What you are experiencing is perfectly normal for the stock Prius, the battery is simply an energy buffer in the current generation of 100% gas fueled Hybrids. It is not intended to ever be fully charged nor discharged and the 8 bar scale you see on the screen actually represents a range from 40% to 80% of it's true SOC. If you're really interested in plugging in you might check our our Prius PHEV pages at http://www.eaa-phev.org/wiki/Prius_PHEV. There are significant advantages to being able to plug in a Hybrid with additional battery capacity installed. On short trips of less than 10 miles I don't need to use any gas and on longer freeway trips I can get nearly 100mpg with normal driving techniques. Granted at the moment this type of conversion is primarily for the enthusiast as a demonstration of the potential and won't really be economically sound until the manufacturers start to offer mass production vehicles with advanced Lithium batteries. So write your favorite influential people and ask them to push for Plug-in Hybrids...

statultra · 03-04-2007, 01:19 AM

putting the vehicle in drive and firmly pressing the brakes and gas pedal ( full throttle ) will force chargethe battery, this reduces gas mileage,

dipper · 03-04-2007, 01:43 AM

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putting the vehicle in drive and firmly pressing the brakes and gas pedal ( full throttle ) will force chargethe battery, this reduces gas mileage,
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Or better yet, push the Prius over the top of a hill.... no gas wasted and battery is recharged.

hobbit · 03-04-2007, 08:21 AM

Just for fun last summer, I combined a little experiment with an
"MPG challenge" as part of a local alt-fuel/energy fair. Per my own
advice in http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/car...ally-hints.txt
I force-charged before coming up to the line to reset, and thus had
that extra 300 Wh or so available. Did my loop, came back showing
94.something MPG [less than my run at Hybridfest, grr] with a
fairly low SOC because I tried to use up the rest of it at the end.
.
Then, I sat there and force-charged back up to green, and wound up
with the MFD showing *83* something MPG instead. So for a short
run [20 miles or so], when you're riding so many other delicate
conditions for as long as you can, I guess it matters. But it's
still not enough energy to be worth pulling out of the wall with
the stock battery capacity.
.
_H*

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03-02-2007, 04:42 PM	#1
sebapisa Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 20 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	It seems like the battery level stays between 1/2 full to 3/4 full all the time, always in the blue. I've only seen the green bars in a long downhill. Is there any way to force a full charge to the battery? Plug it to an outlet? Maybe I should have asked the dealer to fully charge it before I drove away. Will my gas mileage improve with a fully charged battery? Thanks for the information.

03-02-2007, 04:46 PM	#2
ohgreys Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 123 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I'm not sure about a plug-in mod but you should know that the blue 1/4-3/4 full battery is A-ok and operating as it should be. As far as I know there is no MPG advantage to having a full battery.

03-02-2007, 04:53 PM	#3
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 14,247 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 1 Time in 1 Post TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 24	the battery is kept as close to 60% SOC as possible while still taking advantage of the battery to provide or store power as needed. This is what allows the battery to last the life of the car. There is no practial way to plug it in without adding extra batteries and charging those off the grid. There's also little advantage to doing so as the capacity is so small. Doing so would decrease the life of the battery.

03-04-2007, 01:19 AM	#5
statultra uber-Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cape coral, FL Posts: 575 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	putting the vehicle in drive and firmly pressing the brakes and gas pedal ( full throttle ) will force chargethe battery, this reduces gas mileage,

03-04-2007, 08:21 AM	#7
hobbit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bahstahn Posts: 2,989 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Just for fun last summer, I combined a little experiment with an "MPG challenge" as part of a local alt-fuel/energy fair. Per my own advice in http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/car...ally-hints.txt I force-charged before coming up to the line to reset, and thus had that extra 300 Wh or so available. Did my loop, came back showing 94.something MPG [less than my run at Hybridfest, grr] with a fairly low SOC because I tried to use up the rest of it at the end. . Then, I sat there and force-charged back up to green, and wound up with the MFD showing 83 something MPG instead. So for a short run [20 miles or so], when you're riding so many other delicate conditions for as long as you can, I guess it matters. But it's still not enough energy to be worth pulling out of the wall with the stock battery capacity. . _H*