CAN-view sales

[eflier]

Originally posted by chrisek@Nov 26 2005, 11:21 PM
eflier, I've got Nav on an '05, and you can count me in.  In your last e-mail (reasonable reply) you state you don't know how VAIS gets their connectors.  I'm planning on getting the VAIS to hook up our iPod.  So my question is, can these co-exist?  If I get the VAIS, and it has extra connectors built into IT, could you use those to connect in?  Am I making sense?

In any case $20 or $90 over, if it is clean I'm game and please PM me when available.

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I don't know. It would help if some kind person would post pictures of the VAIS unit on PriusChat, with special attention to all connectors. As to co-existing, that depends on whether it shares the same AVC id (280) as CAN-view. Anybody know?

[DaveinOlyWA]

Originally posted by eflier@Nov 25 2005, 09:47 PM

If a with-NAV version could be provided within 2 weeks, cost just $20 more for a partial harness but require  splicing into their NAV cable (with possible warranty issues?), how many people would still want to do this?

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gee Norm... i accidentally got people excited over this when i told them on the Scanuage thread that you had already released a version that worked with NAV. sorry about that. i knew you were working on it...

but if all it takes is wiretapping some connections, i think you will find that there is a HUGE interest in your product. most find that is much more desirable to have the onscreen data.

[DaveinOlyWA]

Originally posted by chrisek@Nov 26 2005, 11:21 PM
eflier, I've got Nav on an '05, and you can count me in.  In your last e-mail (reasonable reply) you state you don't know how VAIS gets their connectors.  I'm planning on getting the VAIS to hook up our iPod.  So my question is, can these co-exist?  If I get the VAIS, and it has extra connectors built into IT, could you use those to connect in?  Am I making sense?

In any case $20 or $90 over, if it is clean I'm game and please PM me when available.

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i have the AIC with a 60 GB ipod AND a 4 GB mini connected along with my CANVIEW. they dont share connections at all. the CANVIEW plugs into the MFD the AIC plugs into the stereo...

[DHonzik]

I have 2005 Prius with Factory NAV and I would be interested in the $90 solution. I would not be interested in any thing that could void the warranty. That one of the reasons I wouldn't get the EV switch. Have you talked to Coastal or VAIS to find out where they get their connectors from? Last thing I heard from Coastal, they are having the same problem locating connectors for the NAV enhancement mod.

[hdrygas]

Originally posted by windstrings@Nov 26 2005, 12:48 PM
I agree... I used to have that function on my watch....and it was very handy when out in the boonies traversing the mountains. Very simple addition.... I used it also to tell how much farther I had to the summit when going over passes.... or how close I was to sea level.

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I used to mystify the new younger scouts in my son's troop by getting a elevation profile of every hike and that with my altimeter on my watch I could answer all those questions, like "how much more to the top of the hill?", "how much farther?", and the ever popular "are we there yet". I would glance at the profile card I made and laminated and give them a direct answer. ".3 mile to the top of the hill", "5.7 miles", and "no". The older scouts new the drill, and were more interested in the GPS I carried. BTW I would pay $90 bucks extra or order the necessary connectors myself.

[eflier]

Ok, I make that 5 people interested so while waiting for Frenchie's 2 parts to arrive I have ordered 5 matching sets of connectors from japanparts.com. How can bits of bare plastic cost so much? The female parts don't even come with the special pins!
Frenchie is doing more tests soon to try to resolve this screen time-out issue. Once that is done and I have built the first 4-way harness, I will need to confirm everything is correct before shipping to anyone. So hang in there for the continuing with-NAV soap opera.

[naterprius]

Make that 6. I may be able to help you figure out a cheap way to get the connectors.

Let me do some research. Which connector is it exactly? Is it the opposite of the one shown in the other thread that connects to the touchscreen?

Nate

[naterprius]

I believe the connector in question is connector M14 as listed in the wiring diagram. If that's the case, then it is part number 90980-12410 from Toyota. Many (but not all) Toyota connectors are paired with their gender counterpart such that if 90980-12410 is the female connector then 90980-12409 is the male connector. Try ordering this part number from the dealership.

The other possibility is to design the NAV kit to use the NAV system's connectors under the driver's seat. The part number of these are N2 90980-11973, with its mate being 90980-11972 (This part number is indicated by Toyota as being for a PCB, so it may need to go on a board.

N3 is 90980-11923, its mate is 90980-11922.

Just something to consider. I am willing to cut and splice, however.

Nate

[eflier]

Originally posted by naterprius@Nov 28 2005, 10:34 AM

Nate

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Yes, factory NAV has a cable from N3 on the NAV to M14 on the MFD. So you could either connect a CAN-view right at the back of the MFD or right next to the NAV unit

If the choice was at the back of the MFD, we would need the female plug 90810-12410 which I now have ~100 of and its mate, which is not even listed at my Canadian dealership. Possibly a US dealership can get parts we can't?

If the choice was into the NAV N3 (no signals of interest to me on the N2) then we would need the 90980-11922 and its PC mount counterpart 90980-11923
I've ordered the 922, but the 923 is unavailable. What is offered is a harness 08635-00010 which has the matching connector on 1 end which you cut off and throw the rest of the harness away. Hence the much higher price.

With these restrictions, doing 2 types of harness isn't practical. Only the version 2 can be used with NAV because the external video port is needed for the NAV. This means it has to go under the seat, in which case a very short harness to the adjacent NAV unit makes sense. (Rather than 2 x8 foot lengths up to the MFD and back)

So it comes down to will I get the connector and harness I ordered? and will I ever get more than 5? (The connector on the harness is not even listed at the dealership)
I am going via Japanparts.com. If anyone has a better idea I am open to suggestions.

[hdrygas]

Originally posted by eflier@Nov 28 2005, 04:50 PM
Yes, factory NAV has a cable from N3 on the NAV to M14 on the MFD.  So you could either connect a CAN-view right at the back of the MFD or right next to the NAV unit

If the choice was at the back of the MFD, we would need the female plug 90810-12410 which I now have ~100 of and its mate, which is not even listed at my Canadian dealership. Possibly a US dealership can get parts we can't?

If the choice was into the NAV N3 (no signals of interest to me on the N2) then we would need the 90980-11922 and its PC mount counterpart 90980-11923
I've ordered the 922, but the 923 is unavailable. What is offered is a harness  08635-00010 which has the matching connector on 1 end which you cut off and throw the rest of the harness away. Hence the much higher price.

With these restrictions, doing 2 types of harness isn't practical. Only the version 2 can be used with NAV because the external video port is needed for the NAV. This means it has to go under the seat, in which case a very short harness to the adjacent NAV unit makes sense. (Rather than 2 x8 foot lengths up to the MFD and back)

So it comes down to will I get the connector and harness I ordered? and will I ever get more than 5? (The connector on the harness is not even listed at the dealership)
I am going via Japanparts.com. If anyone has a better idea I am open to suggestions.

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Keep me posted, I just got the show and tell from DaveinOlyWa. I was impressed. Very nice. If I die looking at and trying to decipher the hex display I hold you harmless. I love it. Where is my HP calculator. I need new batteries!