A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video)

PeakOilGarage · 01-25-2009, 03:11 PM

A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included Peak Oil Garage

By Warren Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, January 25, 2009; Page G01

Warren Brown takes the $109,000 electric-powered Tesla Roadster for a spin.

daniel · 01-25-2009, 06:02 PM

Nice review! Honest, straightforward.

DaveinOlyWA · 01-31-2009, 06:10 PM

sweet looking car... more i look at it, the more i am tempted, but would have to win the lottery first... guess i wait for BYD or Zenn instead...

patsparks · 01-31-2009, 11:32 PM

I might get me one of those,

when the price drops to about $10,000 on the used car market.

PeakOilGarage · 02-02-2009, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsparks

I might get me one of those,

when the price drops to about $10,000 on the used car market.

If Tesla Motors goes bankrupt, it will be a long time before anyone attempts to produce such an amazing vehicle. So the car will likely become an instant collectors item. Good luck ever getting one below $100,000.

patsparks · 02-02-2009, 07:09 AM

Please don't get me and my warped humour wrong, I want nothing more than for Tesla to win out and be very successful. Unfortunately my income precludes me from owning such a car, I'd love to own one but unfortunately I won't be able to afford one. I love the car and the concept, I love the things you guys are doing at Peak Oil Garage too, those electric RAV4s should fly out the door.

daniel · 02-02-2009, 11:21 AM

Tesla ain't going bankrupt. Investment capital is on hold since W and his cronies bankrupted the nation, but Tesla has a product that a lot of people with big bucks want. Pat may have to wait 10 years for the current crop of Roadsters to be old enough to sell for $10,000 but it could happen. An old junker Roadster with 200,000 miles on it and the batteries are only good for 50 miles instead of 245 and the paint is all chipping. And the new ones go zero to 60 in 3 seconds instead of 4 and have a 500 mile range. Could happen.

DaveinOlyWA · 02-02-2009, 02:31 PM

if Tesla failed that would be unfortunate, but if the data gathered to build the car and the real life user data from owners is also lost, then that would be tragic. almost as tragic as something like having a car company come out with an EV, then have that car company destroy all the cars along with the data gathered while that car was on the....oh wait, this is starting to sound familiar...hmmm?? where have i heard this before ??

anyway, that would never happen is a sensible environment right? we would take that data from Tesla's roadster and use it build on making a better car or developing a better battery or charge monitoring system or whatever right??

**edit**

and as far as that used roadster for $10,000... ya, toss a new $20,000 battery pack in there HELL YES, i want it!!! its not like the engine is ready to go out on it, probably toss another 5-10,000 to redo the suspension, brakes, bearing (what little there is) and you have a new car, and daniel, with that carbon fiber body, i am pretty sure rust is not a factor

PeakOilGarage · 02-02-2009, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsparks

Please don't get me and my warped humour wrong, I want nothing more than for Tesla to win out and be very successful. Unfortunately my income precludes me from owning such a car, I'd love to own one but unfortunately I won't be able to afford one. I love the car and the concept, I love the things you guys are doing at Peak Oil Garage too, those electric RAV4s should fly out the door.

I am actually very concerned about Tesla. If they don't get the government loan to build the Sedan, I don't know if they can survive on only the Roadster. That is a very low volume car and they cannot spread their overhead costs around on those low margins.

As for the RAV4 EV conversions, I am hopeful that the market accepts them. The first one should be done in May 2009. If it sells and it is breakeven or better, then we will do 6 more and get some cost savings from doing that many at the same time. That will hopefully be our profit.

Peak Oil Garage is merely my blog.
Our company is The Green Car Company.

patsparks · 02-02-2009, 06:22 PM

Fingers crossed for you.

01-25-2009, 03:11 PM	#1
PeakOilGarage Nothing less than 99.9 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 334 My Car: 2009 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts Friends: 8	A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included Peak Oil Garage By Warren Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, January 25, 2009; Page G01 Warren Brown takes the $109,000 electric-powered Tesla Roadster for a spin.

01-25-2009, 06:02 PM	#2
daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 11,278 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 59 Thanked 201 Times in 127 Posts Friends: 0	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) Nice review! Honest, straightforward.

01-31-2009, 06:10 PM	#3
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,378 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 121 Times in 103 Posts Friends: 10	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) sweet looking car... more i look at it, the more i am tempted, but would have to win the lottery first... guess i wait for BYD or Zenn instead...

01-31-2009, 11:32 PM	#4
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,190 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 121 Thanked 179 Times in 137 Posts Friends: 33	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) I might get me one of those, when the price drops to about $10,000 on the used car market.

02-02-2009, 07:09 AM	#6
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,190 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 121 Thanked 179 Times in 137 Posts Friends: 33	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) Please don't get me and my warped humour wrong, I want nothing more than for Tesla to win out and be very successful. Unfortunately my income precludes me from owning such a car, I'd love to own one but unfortunately I won't be able to afford one. I love the car and the concept, I love the things you guys are doing at Peak Oil Garage too, those electric RAV4s should fly out the door.

02-02-2009, 11:21 AM	#7
daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 11,278 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 59 Thanked 201 Times in 127 Posts Friends: 0	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) Tesla ain't going bankrupt. Investment capital is on hold since W and his cronies bankrupted the nation, but Tesla has a product that a lot of people with big bucks want. Pat may have to wait 10 years for the current crop of Roadsters to be old enough to sell for $10,000 but it could happen. An old junker Roadster with 200,000 miles on it and the batteries are only good for 50 miles instead of 245 and the paint is all chipping. And the new ones go zero to 60 in 3 seconds instead of 4 and have a 500 mile range. Could happen. __________________ Daniel Primary car: 100% Electric 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera. Estimated range at 55 mph: 81 miles total or 64 miles to 80% discharge. Top speed 70 mph. Secondary car: Zap Xebra SD, also 100% electric. 1.9 cents per mile. Range: 40 miles total, or 32 miles to 80% discharge. Top speed 35 mph. Faster downhill. Both EVs use electrons generated from water power. Gas guzzler for when I have to travel farther than 60 miles: 2004 Prius. "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman "Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think long and hard before starting a war." -- Otto von Bismarck

02-02-2009, 02:31 PM	#8
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,378 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 121 Times in 103 Posts Friends: 10	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) if Tesla failed that would be unfortunate, but if the data gathered to build the car and the real life user data from owners is also lost, then that would be tragic. almost as tragic as something like having a car company come out with an EV, then have that car company destroy all the cars along with the data gathered while that car was on the....oh wait, this is starting to sound familiar...hmmm?? where have i heard this before ?? anyway, that would never happen is a sensible environment right? we would take that data from Tesla's roadster and use it build on making a better car or developing a better battery or charge monitoring system or whatever right?? edit and as far as that used roadster for $10,000... ya, toss a new $20,000 battery pack in there HELL YES, i want it!!! its not like the engine is ready to go out on it, probably toss another 5-10,000 to redo the suspension, brakes, bearing (what little there is) and you have a new car, and daniel, with that carbon fiber body, i am pretty sure rust is not a factor __________________ My Blue 2010 : Last tank 541.9 @ 49.48 pump (56.7 MFD) 5.54 CPM, 21 MPH, Lifetime:5442.2 miles 56.5 MPG pump. (62.22 MFD) 4.72 CPM. Summer MPG 57.4 Winter: 49.5 My 2006 SPM: Last tank 376.6 miles @38.21 pump (40.8 MFD) 7.17 cpm winter mpg 49.64 summer mpg 53.41 lifetime: 42,563.5 miles 51.5 mpg pump (52.7 mpg MFD) 5.51 cpm My 2007 Zenn total "fuel cost" $166.58 on "about" 9599.7 miles. 1.74 cents per mile (granted i plug in for free at work!!) My Plate: DUALPWR (Dual Power) Last edited by DaveinOlyWA; 02-02-2009 at 02:35 PM.

02-02-2009, 06:22 PM	#10
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,190 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 121 Thanked 179 Times in 137 Posts Friends: 33	Re: A Jaw-Dropping Ride, Batteries Included (video) Fingers crossed for you.

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