Serious hesitation on Camry Hybrid

[V8Cobrakid]

same with the prius, and the rx400h... although the 400h has a lot more power. hehe..

i do the same as Pinto Girl. she kinda reminds me of me later in life.. but female.. and more grown up.

anyways.. yeah.. you'll get it.

[Tideland Prius]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(n8kwx @ Oct 19 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]528080[/snapback]</div>

The ES was (is) DBW. A few people complained (an understatement) while others didn't notice a problem. Lots of flame wars back and forth...

As far as the Camry, I have never had an instance where I noticed any lag. And once in a while I do drive it hard. (It's not a V8 like my old car, but I get over twice the milage)
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Yeah but their complaints were about the lazy transmission wasn't it?

If not, then there's both the transmission and the DBW issue?

[zo6tosv]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hobbit @ Oct 20 2007, 01:01 AM) [snapback]528082[/snapback]</div>

sheez, if you're cutting your lane changes that close in front of
other people, the problem doesn't appear to be with the car.
.
_H*
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Very funny, i'm addressing a serious issue. Read the post again. does it say that at anytime the upcoming driver had to jam on his brakes? does it even say he honked at me? Let me make it clear: When i switched lanes, i should have been accelerating but i wasn't for a couple of seconds. You can figure out the rest can't you? It never fails, there's always one in the crowd.

or is this my initiation test??

[priusenvy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zo6tosv @ Oct 21 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]528565[/snapback]</div>

or is this my initiation test??
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You haven't had your drink of the purple kook-aid yet. Once you've had it, you'll become a Prius apologist too.

It's *never* the car's fault. It's always something the driver is doing.

[zo6tosv]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusenvy @ Oct 21 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]528566[/snapback]</div>

You haven't had your drink of the purple kook-aid yet. Once you've had it, you'll become a Prius apologist too.

It's *never* the car's fault. It's always something the driver is doing.
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There's an old saying what goes around comes around: http://priuschat.com/seat-belt-follies-t38644.html


I'm just in one of those moods today. I just find it funny that someone is questioning my driving skills without even knowing who i am. My screen name wasn't just made up, it's actual experience.

But it's all in fun.

Peace

[n8kwx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Oct 20 2007, 01:56 AM) [snapback]528103[/snapback]</div>

Yeah but their complaints were about the lazy transmission wasn't it?

If not, then there's both the transmission and the DBW issue?
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It's my understanding that both are computer controlled to "better" work together. Better being smoother shifts and improved fuel economy. So the "throttle" response is a combination of what you want and what the transmission wants.

Even on my old car (1995 Chevy Impala SS - Caprice with a Corvette motor) there were a few combinations of speed, loading, and gear where you would sometimes experience some hesitation. But the 5.7L V8 would quickly compensate.

I've never sworn at my car for not moving when I want it to. Your driving style will quickly change with the car. To get the best fuel economy (40+MPG average) you never want full throttle anyway.

[richard schumacher]

If the engine isn't running when you mash the accelerator it takes a second or so to start. Power and torque at the wheel are reduced until then. This simply has to be accounted for when driving.

[hobbit]

Show me where in the irrelevant seatbelt post I was dealing with
proximity to other drivers.
.
If you're changing into a faster lane and you haven't already begun
and stabilized your "burn" before you even start moving over, you're
being anything but smooth. Especially if someone's close.
.
If you haven't left sufficient room to begin said burn without
crunching into whoever's in front of you, then, well, insert the
usual rant here. Specious arguments about how "space cushion is an
impossible fantasy" duly ignored, for large values of it anyways.
.
Abruptness kills.
.
Now, I will point out that the HSD in its myriad forms does use the
battery and motors sort of as the moral equivalent of an "accelerator
pump" or other enrichment means, but whose quantity is a little
limited. Meanwhile, everything possible is done to *prevent* the
gas engine from running anything other than stoichiometric, so no
"burst of power" there. So you draw a somewhat anemic "punch it"
response from the battery until the ICE spools up enough to match
the power you're asking for. This generally requires a slightly
slower opening of the throttle flap, to prevent stumbling. This is
a well-known characteristic, obvious to most owners of a week or
two duration.
.
_H*

[priusenvy]

What's annoying is that the throttle is drive-by-wire, so the computer should do the right thing when I floor it. I shouldn't be able to outperform the computer by easing into the throttle and then flooring it, but I can.

[zo6tosv]

now this is a comment i can appreciate.

Thank you everybody.





<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hobbit @ Oct 21 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]528634[/snapback]</div>

Show me where in the irrelevant seatbelt post I was dealing with
proximity to other drivers.
.
If you're changing into a faster lane and you haven't already begun
and stabilized your "burn" before you even start moving over, you're
being anything but smooth. Especially if someone's close.
.
If you haven't left sufficient room to begin said burn without
crunching into whoever's in front of you, then, well, insert the
usual rant here. Specious arguments about how "space cushion is an
impossible fantasy" duly ignored, for large values of it anyways.
.
Abruptness kills.
.
Now, I will point out that the HSD in its myriad forms does use the
battery and motors sort of as the moral equivalent of an "accelerator
pump" or other enrichment means, but whose quantity is a little
limited. Meanwhile, everything possible is done to *prevent* the
gas engine from running anything other than stoichiometric, so no
"burst of power" there. So you draw a somewhat anemic "punch it"
response from the battery until the ICE spools up enough to match
the power you're asking for. This generally requires a slightly
slower opening of the throttle flap, to prevent stumbling. This is
a well-known characteristic, obvious to most owners of a week or
two duration.
.
_H*
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