BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners?

**Tideland Prius** · 10-25-2008, 02:51 AM

For those who want a thermos to keep the coolant warm, there is this solution

BlueHeat® FAQ

It runs off the 12V battery to pre-heat the coolant and circulate it around the engine. The problem? well it's a hefty price over an engine block heater.

hill · 10-25-2008, 02:58 AM

WOW !! $1,700 for a device that drains the battery AND the fuel tank, in order to warm the car. It's GOT to be a gag, right?

Flying White Dutchman · 10-25-2008, 07:05 AM

OOo webasto..

that runs on fuel to and 12volt battery

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Once activated, BlueHeat® Coolant Heater draws power from the vehicle's battery and fuel from the vehicle's fuel tank. BlueHeat® burns the fuel to create heat. Circulating the engine's coolant,
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**Tideland Prius** · 10-25-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hill

WOW !! $1,700 for a device that drains the battery AND the fuel tank, in order to warm the car. It's GOT to be a gag, right?

i know.. i was wondering about that.. oh you're not idling.. but you're still using fuel???

Ogo · 10-25-2008, 05:15 PM

Yes, you are using the fuel. But usually those little heaters are much more efficient in terms of providing the heat compared to the internal combustion engine running.
So for heating up the car and not freezing your butt off during winter, it makes sense.
Regarding fuel economy, it does not necessarily as the little heater consumes around deciliter or two fuel for heating up the car. ICE consumption will of course be lower due to it being heated up already, but overall fuel consumption will still probably be higher. It depends on your expectations ...
Some of those can also be started by timer or even radio operated remote control.

**Tideland Prius** · 10-25-2008, 05:28 PM

but wouldn't an EBH work just as well? and about 1/10th the cost?

Ogo · 10-26-2008, 05:04 AM

Some people do not have access to electricity plug with their Prius for EBH to work.
Also fuel heaters make heat while on the road even for those having a possibility to "plug in" but do not have extension cord long enough for EBH to work while on the road.

In Europe most people who have installed additional heater in the car, usually install a fuel powered one. Some newer cars, mostly diesel, already come with additional heater pre-installed as diesels are more difficult to heat up and more susceptible to cold at same time. Including Toyotas.

**Tideland Prius** · 10-26-2008, 06:52 PM

makes sense... The Prius has a mini electric heater.

Stefx · 11-04-2008, 03:45 PM

I wonder where they would install it on a Prius, but I assume they can't install it on small cars.
Their application list on the website pretty much only lists large trucks

10-25-2008, 02:51 AM	#1
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,633 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 346 Times in 245 Posts Friends: 23	BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? For those who want a thermos to keep the coolant warm, there is this solution BlueHeat® FAQ It runs off the 12V battery to pre-heat the coolant and circulate it around the engine. The problem? well it's a hefty price over an engine block heater.

10-25-2008, 02:58 AM	#2
hill High Fiber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South OC So Cal & the Flathead Valley MT Posts: 3,887 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 15 Thanked 93 Times in 68 Posts Friends: 12	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? WOW !! $1,700 for a device that drains the battery AND the fuel tank, in order to warm the car. It's GOT to be a gag, right?

10-25-2008, 07:05 AM	#3
Flying White Dutchman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,546 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: Thanks: 3 Thanked 183 Times in 150 Posts Friends: 9	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? OOo webasto.. that runs on fuel to and 12volt battery ---------- Once activated, BlueHeat® Coolant Heater draws power from the vehicle's battery and fuel from the vehicle's fuel tank. BlueHeat® burns the fuel to create heat. Circulating the engine's coolant, ----------

10-25-2008, 05:15 PM	#5
Ogo New Prius Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ilirska Bistrica, Slovenia Posts: 136 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: N/A Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Friends: 1	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? Yes, you are using the fuel. But usually those little heaters are much more efficient in terms of providing the heat compared to the internal combustion engine running. So for heating up the car and not freezing your butt off during winter, it makes sense. Regarding fuel economy, it does not necessarily as the little heater consumes around deciliter or two fuel for heating up the car. ICE consumption will of course be lower due to it being heated up already, but overall fuel consumption will still probably be higher. It depends on your expectations ... Some of those can also be started by timer or even radio operated remote control. Last edited by Ogo; 10-25-2008 at 05:20 PM.

10-25-2008, 05:28 PM	#6
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,633 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 346 Times in 245 Posts Friends: 23	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? but wouldn't an EBH work just as well? and about 1/10th the cost?

10-26-2008, 05:04 AM	#7
Ogo New Prius Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ilirska Bistrica, Slovenia Posts: 136 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: N/A Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Friends: 1	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? Some people do not have access to electricity plug with their Prius for EBH to work. Also fuel heaters make heat while on the road even for those having a possibility to "plug in" but do not have extension cord long enough for EBH to work while on the road. In Europe most people who have installed additional heater in the car, usually install a fuel powered one. Some newer cars, mostly diesel, already come with additional heater pre-installed as diesels are more difficult to heat up and more susceptible to cold at same time. Including Toyotas. Last edited by Ogo; 10-26-2008 at 05:11 AM.

10-26-2008, 06:52 PM	#8
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,633 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 229 Thanked 346 Times in 245 Posts Friends: 23	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? makes sense... The Prius has a mini electric heater.

11-04-2008, 03:45 PM	#9
Stefx Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 318 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: N/A Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	Re: BlueHeat - Possible "thermos" coolant for TCH owners? I wonder where they would install it on a Prius, but I assume they can't install it on small cars. Their application list on the website pretty much only lists large trucks Last edited by Stefx; 11-04-2008 at 09:42 PM.

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