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What type of Gas should Prius stay AWAY

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by Hy-Bird, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. Genoz World

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    use 87 while cruising around town, 89 on long distance highway driving.
     
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    So 89 is only useful in power mode with "spirited" driving?
     
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    Save your money: it never needs 89 octane. If the engine ever pings it needs a repair, not different gas.
     
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    I would love to see what kind of mpg my Prius could reach if real 87 octane was available instead of E-10 and the special additives requiored in the Chicago area and the crap winter blend. I found real gasoline in Alabama on a trip to florida used 2 tanks to and 2 back going through the state got 6 mpg better on that gas. First tank of E-10 and everyone after back down minus 6. I have been told less energy in a gallon of E-10 vs real gasoline and even less energy in a gallon of E-85. Everyone i have met with a flex fuel vehicle says E-85 drops their mpg compared to E-10.
     
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    I'm not totally sold on the idea of E-85 having less energy than E-10 or real gasoline. I met an owner of a shop that specializes in changing over vehicles to E-85 only. I'm not sure what parts are changed and what tuning tweeks he then uses but he said i would be suprised the power and mileage gains they can get. I saw how many vehicles were waiting for the change over lots of mustangs some were getting the full treatment turbo, E-85 change over and then tune tweeks. I'll stay with my tweeks called Toyota Prius.
     
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    http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/pdfs/afv_info.pdf
    Alternative Fuels to Gasoline - Cost of Alternative Fuels - Popular Mechanics
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    The ethanol myth


    http://www.motorweek.org/features/goss_garage/e85_compatibility

    But, http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/05/25/462650.html claims the above is an exaggeration.
     
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    cwerdna nice video but the shop does not do a flex fuel conversion it is E-85 only . The parts that are needed to be changed they do then some type of tune. They have lots of happy customers who are gearheads and probably charge a couple thousand. They have been refining this for a few years. From what they said flex cars are a joke because they have to do both fuels their conversion takes full advantage of E-85 they are more of a race shop for muscle type cars. This is not my area of knowledge at all but they have a following so they must be doing something right. They also say small engine, turbo and set up to run only E-85 is what car manufactures should be doing but it's all Greek to me.
     
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    High performance cars often run alcohol or methanol to increase octane and decrease the chance of detonation. I ran methanol injection in my truck. I can understand why high performance turbocharged or supercharged cars would be interested in E 85 but that doesn't means it's the way to go for everyone. Ethanol is expensive to produce and doesn't offer any real reduction in fossil fuel use.
     
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    We are moving to south Utah, elevation 2800-5000 feet. Regular gas is 85 octane and has 10% eethanol. Is that OK for my
    2009 Prius with 85000 miles
     
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    Yes. The lowest octane in your Area is always fine. 85 is likely tailored to your higher altitude. It's a rare vehicle that needs anything higher, but you wouldn't think that's the case, looking at the plethora of higher octane pumps.
     
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    Our Prius has a knock sensor that I've tested and works just fine. You should have no problem. Still, ask a local Toyota dealer for the last word.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Reg 87 is all you need, I get mine at Costco or Sams it works just fine
     
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    ^^^keep in mind MPG, high up in the mountains they can go with Reg 85 octane as equivalent to Reg 87 octane at sea level
     
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    Other than that high-ethanol gas you are NOT supposed to use, you can use any regular gas out there. Even the 10% ethanol gas (most common) is perfectly safe on the Prius.

    Also, regarding "high octane" gas, a Prius would really never benefit from it. The Prius power plant does not use the ICE to produce motion in quite the same way as a standard automobile does. Even then, octane's benefit is frequently questioned.

    You WILL get more benefit running a fuel system cleaner on a somewhat regular basis (every 3 months) to ensure you keep the system running at 100%. Every vehicle my family has owned that used a FI system has done this. Go a year without doing it, and you will notice an improvement when you start doing it again. The additives gas companies put in are a much lower concentration, and requires you always use THEIR gas to get the long-term benefit. OTC additives are much more powerful and do the job in one application.