charging question

I think if you check at about 2 hours and 40 Minutes it will be done charging,no?

 

For you guys where it takes 3 hours to charge...what do you think the difference is from the rest of us that charge in about 2.25 hours? Serious question...maybe it's been answered before.

 

+1. ?

 

maybe not keeping track of the actual time?
Mine says 3 normally with no ev left or 3.1 if I empty the pack.

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to reduce confusion, I hope anyways....

using the 120v oem charger mine says 3 hours to charge at the beginning of the charge cycle with no ev miles left and 3.1 hours to charge if I empty the pack all the way so the battery display gauge shows the two purple bars, at around 18% SOC.

It never takes 3 hours to complete.
At around .5 (30 minutes) left, the charge rate drops from 1.0kw to 0.5 kw and continues charging for .1 to .2 (6 to 12 minutes) instead of the .5 (30 minutes) the timer shows.

 

i don't know for sure, i have upgrade 200 amp 120v power. the only thing i've noticed in the ten years we've been in this house is that the lights dim for a millisecond every 10 or 15 minutes.

 

hmmm...anything at all you can think of causing that outlet to get slightly less power than it should have?

 

no, it's all brand new. breaker, wire and outlet. amps and volts test correctly, i don't know what else can be measured? and L1 is 3 hours, L2 is 90 minutes. that's the spec, the question may be, why are some (most?) charging faster?

 

iirc the instructions say to use a dedicated 20A circuit for the OEM evse
so if bisco is plugging into a 15A circuit with lights on the circuit as well that might explain that issue.
bisc?

 

nope, brand new circuit, double breaker, 10 ga. wire and 240v outlet. open source evse. before that, it was brand new breaker, 10 ga. wire and new 120v outlet, oem evse. and i use the oem evse on an outside outlet at work that i tapped off of my office outlet, so shared, and that takes 3 hours as well.

 

I doubt that there is a substancial difference in the charge times listed in this thread.
Coolguy just got his car and most of his numbers match mine and are only slightly different from what I see you guys posting too.

I edited yesterdays post above with
edit
to reduce confusion, I hope anyways....

using the 120v oem charger mine says 3 hours to charge at the beginning of the charge cycle with no ev miles left and 3.1 hours to charge if I empty the pack all the way so the battery display gauge shows the two purple bars, at around 18% SOC.

It never takes 3 hours to complete.
At around .5 (30 minutes) left, the charge rate drops from 1.0kw to 0.5 kw and continues charging for .1 to .2 (6 to 12 minutes) instead of the .5 (30 minutes) the timer shows.

with an older pack or for people who don't empty the pack charge before plugging in ( variables ) , that topping zone of 0.5kw may last longer then it does with a newer pack.
I'll have to wait for my pack to age or change the way I charge the car before I'll know for sure.

 

mine is 27 months old, has 14,000 ev miles and takes the same amount of time to charge as when new.

 

i just plugged in. had a few miles of ev left. after 10 minutes, i checked the screen: 1.9 kWh, 1.4 hours left, 4.9 miles ev estimate. there's no way it's gonna take 1.4 hours to finish.

 

50 min. mark, still charging at 1.9 kWh, 14.2 ev estimate, .6h left to finish. final ev estimate should be 15.3.

 

The car does not know if you are plugged into a 15A circuit or a 20A circuit. It only can sense the voltage.
You could plug it into a 120v circuit that has a 5A breaker and the car would start charging. It would then trip the breaker.

Mike

 

no, the lowest it will go is two purple bars, the it's ice time. if you want to see it, simulate stop and go in a parking lot.

 

The only way I know of to go below two HV bars is to be out of gas, so the ICE cannot start. But this risks running the traction battery below the threshold where it disables itself, and a proprietary Toyota charger (that dealers allegedly have) is required to re-enable it. Not to mention the risk of causing permanent damage to the battery.

 

The two purple bars are not something a normal driver would ever see.
If you want to see them you can do so by running ev all the way to 0 where the ICE typically switches on.
Then you have to figure out how to force the ICE to stop and crawl at very slow speed and watch the HV battery display closely.
As the HV battery display drops you have to go slower and slower to keep the ICE from turning on.
Any incline at the lower bars of the HV battery display will turn the ICE on, and there are assorted other conditions that will prevent you from seeing the two purple bars.
You need to experiment with your driving style and your car.
SOC, when the 2 purple bars are showing on the battery gauge display, is around 18 or 19% and normal bottom of the ev battery gauge display is around 23% SOC.
Whether that 4 or 5% SOC is enough of a difference to cause battery lifecycle deterioration is for you to figure out, unless someone has documentation on it.

 

On my 2005 Prius I would see the purple bars once in awhile. I think it was when the car decided to do maintance on the battery.
On my plug in, I don't remember ever seeing purple bars. Then again I'm not trying to see them!
I guess I will have to watch a little closer!

 

i never run out of ev in the situations that made my lift back run down that low.