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Tire pressure for 2014 Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Walker1, Jul 29, 2014.

  1. Walker1

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    I just got a '14 Prius. This is my 3rd one. I was running 44 lbs. of pressure in both of them for max. mileage & it worked out ok. I live in FL and it's flat. Now I've been told by the dlr. that I shouldn't run that pressure.

    My question to you is what do YOU recommend for tire pressure for maximum mileage? Perhaps I'm missing something as I've only had the new car since 7-11-14. Thanks all.
     
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    1) I never exceed the rating on the tire itself.
    2) I try to acheive even tread wear, this varies by tire but 41 to 38 psi is about right.
    3) I inflate the rears about 2 psi less than fronts.
     
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    Being somewhat "old school", I'm willing to try added pressure, so I'm running 40/38 for our upcoming 6,500 mile trip. I'll be checking tread wear to see if it's making a difference across the width of all 4 tires. I tend to shy away from max pressure just because. ;) I understand max pressure is a cold setting and all, but I'm just not ready to go that far when so much of my driving will be at highway speeds. FWIW, the tires came at 32 all around, so I was pretty disappointed with that. It should have been part of the dealer checklist before delivery and they should have at least been 35/33 like the door sticker says.
     
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    37 to 38 psi for mine...
     
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    42 at front, 40 rear. Been driving for 9 years with this tire pressure from 2005 through the Prius 2004, 2008, 2011 and PiP 2012 till today.
     
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    42 front/40 rear on a Prius v. Sidewall says 51 max. At 40,000 mi. no sign of uneven tire wear.
     
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    I'd be interested to see if anyone has documented proof that inflating tyres over the recommendations gives any benefit in fuel economy. I run mine at the recommended pressure, 2.5bar front, 2.3bar rear and am very happy (over the moon) with the economy I get.
     
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    There are some simplified equations you can use to see the general rolling resistance trends, I have posted before. Note that any specific tire would have its own characteristics. In other words, pay more attention to the shape of this plot, not the absolute numbers:
    MPG vs tire psi.jpg

    I've seen some posts in Google, the hypermiling guru Wayne Gerdes used extreme high pressures (55psig+) he liked that. But unless you are trying to set the world record for miles per tank on a Prius (which some here are trying to do) I don't think we should go over-board on it. Main thing is MPG drops fast at less than recommended pressure.

    EDIT- The Mythbusters data gives a strange plot showing extreme benefit for going a few pounds over recommended. Something seems a little whacky in their data, but keep in mind each tire is unqiue.

    One big variable is tire temperature, whereas higher tire temperature greatly reduces rolling resistance (yet another reason why we see lower MPG in winter). I don't recall if Mythbusters talked about warming up the tires for 15-minutes before their tests, but that's what they'd really need to do. My plot is after warm-up. My plot of course is not perfect either ...I think my plot is estimating what happens to rubber rolling resistance vs. pressure. But I have no way to predict tire deformation vs. pressure, so that's where my plot could be off.
     
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    I figure if you're pushing something, there's likely some wiggle room, but don't push it too far or you create new problems.

    On that wavelength, I raise pressures, slightly, say 4 lbs above placard values.
     
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    I've driven with higher and lower PSI before. Depends on the brand/model of tire how it handles at lower/higher pressures but I prefer to be able to take a hard corner with less lean/roll and the high pressure helps (not as much as a suspension upgrade but still it's noticeable).
     
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    As Mendel just said, I too am still working with the pressures on our new 2013. The 17"s that are on our Prius have a maximum of 51 PSI, so I have plenty of room to experiment. Currently I am at 45F, 44R presently and the tires seem to be pretty firm, but not overly harsh. I initially started working with 36F35R as the tires were actually on the date of delivery. Placard says 34F, 33R IIRC. I checked the tires before we left with the new car, and sure enough make ready had overlooked the air pressure setting. I thought the car seemed to be sluggish the day before when I test drove it. The low air pressure caused additional rolling resistance. Haven't made a highway trip since raising the pressure, but around town they feel great. Not too bad on the bumpy parts either. I do realize the firmer the tires, the more the suspension will take up the jolts. You have to find a happy medium between comfort, economy, and maximum utilization of the LRR capabilities of those types of tires.

    IMO, the biggest mistake folks make on the Prius is trying non LRR type tires. Yes, there are some poor LRR's out there, but there also some excellent ones out there. The brands and what have you have been discussed here on Prius Chat. One simply needs to decide what amount of money one want's to spend and then purchase the best tire they can for their beloved Prius.

    Bottom line, don't push the envelope. Find what works best for you, then simply maintain the pressure on all four after that.

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    The driver-side door panel on mine says to keep the tire pressure at 34 and 32 psi on the front and rear tires respectively.

    What tire pressure to keep when it is fully loaded with passengers and baggage?

    I have found a nice guide for Suzuki Swift.

    upload_2023-10-1_22-25-29.jpeg
     
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    In North America the 3rd gen Prius (per your 2013) have decal in drivers door opening that says (for 15" tires) 35/33 psi (front/rear). What I do is set all four to 36 psi.
     
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    I do similar, sometimes I keep 36psi on all four and sometimes I would have the front on 38psi and 36psi on the rear. The reason for doing this being that I need to drive at least a kilometer from home for the nearest tire inflation shop and I assume by the time I reach there, the tires are not ideally cold for inner air pressure measurement since they have rolled some distance.

    However, this Suzuki Swift guide seems useful. I would often travel long distances with the car fully loaded hence, I think the different conditions might require different inflation of the tires.
     
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    I haven’t used gas station pumps for a long time. Here Chevron stations were last hold-out, continued to provide free air. But no more. Too, it was a hassle driving there, not that convenient.

    I got a decent quality, floor-standing bicycle pump; that’s all I use now.
     
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    I often think a portable tire inflator might be a good utility tool to keep in the car. Some US$25 - 40 Chinese ones have good reviews.
     
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    I don’t think you change the pressure with load,
    But there is a max psi on the ti