1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Miles on OEM tires before replacement?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Godzuki, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. kgall

    kgall Active Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    984
    152
    2
    Location:
    Olympic Peninsula, WA
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I replaced my Goodyear Fuel Max tires at about 46 K.
    I suspect that I should have done so a few K before I actually did.
     
  2. 70AARCUDA

    70AARCUDA Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2014
    845
    209
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Apparently, because the Ecopia EP20 is an OEM tyre, Bridestone does not list a milage guarantee for it, hence my original question about longevity.

    My original guess-ti-mate was 35 or 36K miles, so seeing numbers like 40-45-50K-miles is VERY good to hear.
     
  3. Spindifferent

    Spindifferent Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2011
    155
    79
    0
    Location:
    Central Texas
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A

    Same here. Replaced the OEM Goodyear Fuel Max tires at about 45.5 K.
     
  4. Godzuki

    Godzuki Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2012
    133
    114
    5
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    [​IMG]
    Original Poster (OP) 65k mile update - Yokohama Avid S33s are at 3/32nd, not yet worn to the tire wear bars. I should make be able to make it to 70k miles... we'll see how much further beyond that.

    I'm currently running the tires at 42f/42r - I find that running the tires at these pressures keeps the wear of the tires fairly consistent across the width of the tires - e.g., the tire edges are not wearing faster than the center of the tires.
    [​IMG]
     
    #84 Godzuki, Aug 24, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2014
  5. Roland1555

    Roland1555 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    282
    68
    0
    Location:
    Vancouver BC
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    You have done better than I did with the EP20's that mine shipped with. Actually more than twice the miles that I got, and I am gentle on the car and kept the tires properly inflated.

    In general though, as new car warranties don't cover tires, it is not uncommon to get short lived tires with any new car. They put out a tender for x hundreds of thousands of tires at a price point and install whatever tire manufacturers supply. Luck of the draw decides upon which make of tire you get. Some are very good.

    Funny thing with those EP20's is that normally you have a tread life warranty from the manufacturers, but not with those, even if you go to purchase it again on the replacement market.

    Roland
     
    Godzuki likes this.
  6. Cactuscoug

    Cactuscoug CactusCoug

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2009
    77
    20
    0
    Location:
    Redmond, Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Goodyear OEMs. Went 51,500 before replacing with Continentals. Should have held out for Michilins.


     
  7. priusdonkey

    priusdonkey Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    211
    51
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, California
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    i replaced my goodyear assurance at 2,600 miles. sold them on Craigslist, so don' care what the total miles are on the stock oem rubber. Changed over to Bridgeston Ecopias 422. I now have 21,000 miles on the tires after five months and i have used 3/10" of an inch of wear. the tires are at 7/10" of tread depth. I rotate the tires every 3-4,000 miles, in a rear cross or criss-cross pattern and run the pressure at 44psi front/rear. the rotations and balancing are done at costco and it usually involves a protracted and unfriendly conversation about my practices, if taken to a different location. the crossing of the tires alleviated the heal-toe wear and any anomalies associated with the poor suspension, positive camber, chassis roll and front wheel drive, braking and weight of the Prius. Round tires means better directional stability, even wear, mitigating road noise and better rolling resistance, which in turn means gas economy. i expect to get 40-50,000 miles from the tires, which then makes the cost of ownership about .10/mile on rubber consumables.
     
    Godzuki likes this.
  8. priusdonkey

    priusdonkey Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    211
    51
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, California
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    i run Ecopia 422 in Los Angeles. they are fine. I paid around $420 at costco with installation with their coupon. I bought a digital tire gauge on amamazon and run 44/44 hot.
     
  9. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Here's a picture of my front OEM EP20's after 50k miles. I expect these to last 100k miles. I'm an outlier, so don't use my tires as an expectation. I rotated the tires 3 times. I ran 40 PSI briefly but the dealer keeps resetting to stock and since I didn't notice much of difference in mpg, I stopped bothering about it.
    20140824_122903.jpg 20140824_122851.jpg
     
    markabele and Godzuki like this.
  10. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,214
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    ^ That's very good.

    Maybe they've changed formulation? I've seen EP20 under 5/32" remaining with that number in kilometers. Definitely those little sipes (you can see in the pic) would be gone. That said, the latest (of 2) sets we put on my son's car looked more or less pristine when they were last by. A cheaper, decent tire, LRR.

    With the EP20 you can have any size you want..., as long as it's 195/65R15. And they're excellent in snow, as long as you've got snow tires, lol. Also, the tread pattern is a dead-ringer for the Insignia SE200.
     
  11. Stealth_Bomber

    Stealth_Bomber New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2014
    2
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Just replaced the Yokohama Avids at 51,000 miles on my 2010 Prius Four. I went with Continental PureContact EcoPlus, and watched my mileage plummet from 48 highway combined to 38 highway (and I drive about 3500-4000 highway miles/month). I bought the car used at 22K, so I can't swear that they were the OEM tires, but by 50K, they were thin enough that hydroplaning was beginning to become an issue. When I first got the car, I aired the tires up to 42 PSI on all four corners, but I got the exact same mileage at 35 PSI, and at 42, I was developing a noticeable wear stripe down the center of the tires. I'm seeing some reports that mileage on new rubber is always lower (deeper treads give increased rolling resistance), but if this is the "new normal" on these tires, I'm going to Craigslist them and get a different set of tires. I'm looking at about a $60/month increase in fuels costs if these Continentals are an indicator.... :-(
     
  12. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I call myself an outlier because I practice DWB (drive without brakes). It pisses off a lot of drivers but I stay in the right lane. Even the cheapest no name tires will last 100k miles if you rarely use the brakes.
     
  13. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2012
    5,084
    1,782
    1
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    Agreed. Braking slow (or not at all) and accelerating slow will help tires last a lot longer.
     
  14. 70AARCUDA

    70AARCUDA Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2014
    845
    209
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Driving ONLY in straight lines and NEVER making turns will also ensure ubber-long treadwear life (ha,ha).
     
    #94 70AARCUDA, Aug 25, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2014
    cwerdna likes this.
  15. jgilliam1955

    jgilliam1955 Sometime your just gotta cry! 2013 Prius 4.

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    368
    102
    0
    Location:
    Williamsburg, Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Just replaced mine at 29K miles. Rotated every 10K and ran 40 & 38 PSI.
     
    tullbent likes this.
  16. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2012
    5,084
    1,782
    1
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    True...that's why people that drive on highways and interstates a lot usually can make their tires last longer.
     
    Godzuki likes this.
  17. Frius

    Frius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    5
    1
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Interesting to see how far everyone went before you got the car!
     
  18. la9ers

    la9ers Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    37
    15
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Currently have 60k miles on my tires, I think I can do another 10k on OEM S33
     
    Godzuki and markabele like this.
  19. Dochatley

    Dochatley Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2010
    15
    2
    0
    Location:
    Dallas
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    OEM Avids changed at 70,000. Could have gone more but got screw in one so changed them all.
     
    Godzuki likes this.
  20. Godzuki

    Godzuki Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2012
    133
    114
    5
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    Original Poster update - here's a pic of one of the Yokohama Avid tires at 75,271 miles, prior to me getting a new set two days ago. I likely could have rolled through another 5000 miles, but I'm happy with the mileage I got from these tires...

    As you can see in the second photo - the tires are almost worn to the treadwear indicator bars.
     
    #100 Godzuki, Jan 1, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2015
    mmmodem likes this.