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Prius III (2010) recall - which part?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by DR Watcher, Oct 20, 2014.

  1. DR Watcher

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    I received the following message from Toyota:
    "Toyota is recalling certain model year 2010 through 2014 prius vehicles. In the affected vehicles, the intelligent power module (ipm) inside the inverter module (a component of the hybrid system) contains transistors that may become damaged from high operating temperatures. If this occurs, various warning lamps will be illuminated on the instrument panel and the vehicle will have reduced power allowing it to only drive a short distance."

    My Prius III died on the highway. Stopped. Dead. "Check Hybrid system". After a while warning lights flashed on and off. After I couldn't get the car out of accessory mode - well, half accessory because the lighter plugs weren't active. I had to disconnect all batteries, but not until it had drained my 12 vt battery. Couldn't get to it fast enough.

    I have contacted Toyota at the number given in the solutions message. They said it will take a couple of days to get back to me. I live in the Dominican Republic, and therefore it could be a while before we get this resolved. Added to that is that I will have to tow it to the Capital, about 200km (120 miles) from here.

    Since I have the programming software (Tech Tools) and the interface to match, would it not be simpler and cheaper for me to do this on my own? If I did, which part am I replacing? 89661-47261? 89681-47041? Or something else? Does anyone know?

    Thanks in advance,
    WMT
     
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    inverter diodes. there's a thread here if you search. see the thread 'inverter ipm, 15 year warranty.'
     
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  3. DR Watcher

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    I tried to find the thread without success. Because of the international problems, I think it will be faster (by a matter of months) to buy the part and install it. If anyone has the part number, please pass it on. Thank you,
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    Here's a link to one of the discussions on the topic: Toyota to Recall 1.9 Million Priuses to Update Software | PriusChat

    It's a major, expensive repair. Essentially, the inverter gets replaced. The failed part is buried in the bottom of the inverter (the transistor/diode assembly), and it's built with what appears to be clean-room techniques. We're talking major power transistor die; that is, not transistors in cases, but transistors directly mounted to a fairly hefty heat sink.

    Best guess of the problem: Hard acceleration 2nd order effects cause a temperature differential between a pair of power transistors and an underlying heat sink. If this is severe enough, cracking develops under the power transistors in question. This can eventually cause one or the other of these transistor to break free, causing arcs and sparks. If you're lucky, the car can limp to the side of the road. If you're not lucky, when this happens, the car stops dead. Which is why it's a safety recall.

    There's a recall out that, apparently, reprograms the engine controller to cut down the rapidity of the onset of power from the motors, thus getting rid of that second-order-effect overheat. People report a slight decrease in acceleration as a result, although the amount of decrease appears to be close to being in the noise. Mixed reports on whether it affects gas mileage; apparently, not really. A certain number of people report that they had to get the update installed twice; the first time, the update reulted in badly driving cars. A second go-around seems to fix things.

    There's been a few cases where the inverter failed after the update. This is thought to be due to cracking having started before the update was applied and just failing to completion after the update. It is thought that this is why Toyota has been extending the warranty on the inverter in a number of cars.

    Haven't heard of anybody trying to do an inverter update themselves. If you had a local mechanic with access to Toyota's repair manual, the tools, and the software, said mechanic might be able to do the swap.

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