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Antares Rocket Explosion

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  1. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Klingons good. Romulans bad...
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    You wouldn't have to get all the supplies to the moon. It's a planetiod with its own resources. A base can be built into the ground. The rocks contain a lot of oxides. A space station needs all its supplies shipped up out of a gravity well. Solving the problems for a moon solves them for any manned Mars missions.
     
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    While the other distances in the solar system are quite vast, the Moon is not nearly as far as you think

    If you model the Earth as a volley ball (8.27" diameter), the moon will be a small apple (2.25", or 'schoolboy' in today's supersized world) at a distance varying from 20 to 22 feet. It would definitely fit in the same classroom, not be in exile out at the edge of the ballfield.
     
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    The government doesn't make anything they oversee and from my experience nationalizing something only makes it more expensive and less efficient.

    some of the Antares first stage work was contracted to the Ukrainian Yuzhnoye SDO, designers of the Zenit series.
    The Ukrainian Yuzhnoye SDO are the nationalized State Space Agency of the Ukraine.
    I thought that was the only way we were going to get to Mars? Many scenarios I've read stated that we have to build a Moon station first.
     
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    Wait, which universe/time line of Star Trek are you talking about?
     
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    I'm guessing you guys don't know what a clingon is?
     
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    What does Star Trek and toilet paper have in common?
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    They both fly around Uranus and whip out Klingons!
     
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    Ah you do then.

    TV tries to pronounce Uranus as Ur-an-us here, but that's no fun. It'll always be Ur-anus to me and I'll endeavour to encourage this throughout my life.
     
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    Mars is the only planet we can send a man to visit in our solar system. (Pluto is not officially a planet.) After that it is a series of moons. There is little that will actually be useful by returning men to the moon or sending them to Mars. At the very best it is an extremely expensive geology field trip, not space exploration. We need the men/women where biology can be encountered. NASA should be putting far more effort into exploring very different propulsion systems and expanding autonomous technologies to lead us to the interesting stuff. But what we have now is exactly the opposite, NASA is buying 50 year old mothballed technology to uselessly orbit around this planet as a deeply established welfare system while the universe awaits.
     
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    I worked on the Orbiting Carbon Observatory which was lost back in '09 when a Taurus rocket fairing failed to separate. We worked crazy hours for a couple years. Luckily I had a chance to help build OCO-2, the successor which is in orbit now. Many of my friends worked on the Glory program which also failed to get to orbit. Now more of my friends who built Cygnus also feel the loss when the spacecraft they built didn't get the chance to get into orbit. But we go back to work and we continue doing what we do. Hopefully they'll figure it out and everything can keep moving forward. It is a terrible shame but on a lighter note, I find the speculation and living room CEO comments on many of the other websites almost hilarious. Many hadn't heard of Antares or Cygnus, or the previous successful missions, until this one exploded.

    I like this article....

    Leroy Chiao: The rocket that blew up (Opinion) - CNN.com
     
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    I must be ancient. I worked on ERTS and Luster as a student intern.

    Those who have NEVER been involved in research, development and manufacturing have no idea how much work and thought goes into designing one small part like a metal bracket.
     
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    Having supported two Landsat launches, satellite business is intense, only bring your A-game. It was the first time I saw an employer bring in folding beds so we could catch a nap without having to drive (or sleep in our car.)

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    Complacency has come into it you think Bob?
     
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    I also follow aviation accidents closely and have learned we really need to wait for the accident analysis. Certainly any man-made effort will eventually point to some human who could have done better BUT none of this is easy.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Wallops Island has been there since the 1950's. I remember going there in the 1970's to witness the launch of the LUSTER Project. It was a small sounding rocket, not a major launch.
     
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