GM releases some teasers for Volt 2.0

Maybe you should take a break from posting your opinions and do some actual research. You opinions are refuted at every turn. Aren't you tired of running into that pane of glass?

 

Rough day?

 

He owns the car, and had a prius phv and a prius before that.

You are bashing his car, without even listening, or learning about it. Many of us don't like gm as a company, but its hard to bash the volt once you actually take the time to learn.

 

Fascinating. I talk about not taking things at face value, doing your own research...
and somehow that's "bashing" and "not doing research."

Funny how the mind works.

 

No problem if you are saying wait until the car comes out and is tested before jumping to any conclusions. Is that what you are saying? If so I agree completely, and am sorry if I jumped to the wrong conclusions. Looking at the leaks is fun, but a lot of the speculation will be wrong.

I don't know what homework we can do right now. I certainly would not be backward looking in terms of battery technology. We seem to be on a slow exponential improvement, where prices have gone down 7% or 8% a year, and the new volt battery according to lg should be about 20% smaller (l/kwh) for the same capacity as the original volt battery was in 2010. We don't know SOC, or power, or even the energy of the next battery. I would not speculate that toyota's battery is ahead here, as gm was free to work with panasonic and get that same battery. Until the thing has a spec on 0-60, epa mpge sticker including aer, and usable space, which we will only partially learn in January, we will learn more once the car magazines can test the beast in 2015.

 

Yep, that's what I said, only not so eloquently as yourself. I don't like to judge anything based on what an ad team has to say, because sometimes they just say whatever it takes to sell cars. I hope all their claims are unexaggerated and true.

 

OUCH!!
Those poor early adapters .... so much for resale ... no doubt there will be some serious deals out there on used models if/when GM drops the price for a new one. I'm in the same, 'grab-your-ancles' rotten resale scenerio with our Leaf ... VIN # ending with 000659. Ergo, cheaper to keep'er.
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Not at all. Quite good actually. My point is we try hard to provide quality information based on as many facts as are available. Sure we post a lot of none sense as well but we should do our best to be honest for the thousands of folks lurking the forum. I don't care if you hate my (current) car and want to act as a cheerleader for your car of choice but please try to keep your posts accurate if you are going to bash.

When I question a manufacturer's claims it is easy to learn more by visiting owner's forums and applicable news sites like Green Car Reports, Inside EVs, etc.. Going on gut instinct is a bad way to go about judging a vehicles worth. It's what initially led me to purchase a PIP instead of the Volt.

 

And when it no longer meets your needs, stick it in the garage for 10 or so years.

 

No doubt. I'm usually not one to fall into this trap but between losing a bunch on the PIP AND the drop in price for the Volt, I'll be driving this thing for awhile. Good thing she doesn't nag!

 

Bro
I don't "hate" the car. In fact the Volt is a cute little car, and it would be my second choice after the Prius. I think it has a few drawbacks compared to the Prius, but that's just because of my preferences; where I need the interior space, and couldn't use the extra EV range. Also, the Prius is a bit more efficient with gasoline.

My "opinion" is that we should try to look at the real facts instead of relying on the advertising. If that doesn't advocate "real research" I don't know what does.

An opinion is not a claim. Any claim can be refuted, but disproving it is a step beyond that.

I'm not the only one in this forum who feels that 50 years of experience entitles us to express a few opinions. Look up the definition of "online forum."

 

I have driven the "cute little car" more than once - I staying with the Prius.

Enuf said,

DBCassidy

 

I've owned a 2010 Prius since 2010 and quite like it, i have no complaints at all about the car really. That said, I like the current volt better. It drives like an all electric car and out performs the prius in every way on the road. I don't need five seats or a ton of cargo space so for me it's an awesome car. I'm waiting for the 2016 Volt to be unveiled and a test drive next year. If GM has managed to improve the volt as much as they say, I will be trading my prius in.

 

Much as I love my Prius, I welcome the challengers such as the Volt, who promise to give Toyota a run for it's money.

 

I've repeated myself enough times about the aggravating faults in the Prius. There's no apparent pattern of constant improvement from one year to the next. "You snooze, you lose" is a good lesson for any company that wants to rest on it's laurels.

Look how fast Blackberry went from owning the market to bottom-feeder.

 

What about rushing to market? Notice that "over promise, under deliver" pattern?

Volt was never a challenge. For it to have been, the audience would have had to be the same.

That's why there is so much interest in the next-gen offering. How will it differ?

 

Latest leak, you can now put a child seat between the two in back.

2016 Chevrolet Volt Gets Seating For 5
leak from people that violated the nda.

 

You beat me to it, Austin.

 

What about a better fit for adults in back?

Legroom almost 2 inches less than Prius isn't exactly a selling point.