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Junction block fuse blown in 2010 Prius V

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by acadiel, Dec 22, 2014.

  1. acadiel

    acadiel Junior Member

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    So... have a 2010 Prius V, about 80,000 miles.

    Tried to start it this morning and got a "Check Hybrid System". No start. Brought it to the local Toyota mega dealer here in Lakeland, FL. (They were pretty organized and on things, so I was pretty impressed.)

    Anyway, just got a call back and it's a junction block fuse that was blown.

    Questions I have are 1) What is this a fuse for? The actual hybrid battery? 2) Where is it located, and 3) (the EE in me) Doesn't something usually cause this fuse to blow?

    Dealer will attempt to replace fuse and drive it around to see if it's fixed, but something typically causes fuses to blow.

    Anyone else have this happen, and what was the cause/fix?

    Thanks :)
     
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    maybe check your 12v battery? did they find any codes?
     
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    Yep, there were two codes, both pointing to the hybrid battery system (the HV battery, not the 12V one.) Said the 12V battery voltage looked OK.
     
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    if it's the hybrid system, at least you're still under warranty.
     
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    I think they'll have to be more specific about what the fuse is for (and maybe exactly which DTCs were set). From what I can tell, there are a number of junction blocks in the car. Although the repair manual I have mentions "junction block fuse" in one place, it never says what it is - it's just in the context of showing that it's adjacent to the main body ECU. I don't think it's for the battery, though; I think it's all low-voltage stuff. Might be a fuse that cuts off a circuit required to connect the battery, though.

    Unless the dealer finds something after replacing the fuse, you'll probably have to wait and see if it recurs or not. Maybe the fuse just wasn't up to snuff, or it was a brief transient or something, and it'll never recur. If it does, then you're in for more fun, of course.
     
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    OK, here's what they replaced. It took them a week to figure it out and fix it.

    G92Z0-47011 Block Assy, HV BA (that looks expensive)
    90069-08011 Ring, O
    90068-14010 Ring, O
    04899-47021 Transistor Kit, P
    04899-47050 Plug Kit, Inverter (this looks expensive too)
    08887-02809 Grease X 23 7884
    90430-A0003 Gasket
    08826-00100 Seal Packing

    It's running OK now. No idea how much this would have cost out of pocket, Toyotacare picked up 100%, including my rental for the week. Glad I have my Gen III back!
     
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    congrats! i wonder what it is? here's hoping it was a one time occurrence.(y)
     
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    From what I was told:
    1. They tried replacing this Junction block fuse assembly on the HV battery first, as they thought it was why the HV system wasn't operating.
    2. Fired it up and promptly blew the new junction block fuse assembly (dealer cost looks like $293.01 and $138.42 dealer labor cost)
    3. Replaced the "transistor kit", which I think is the guts inside the inverter that powers the HV stuff. This was a pretty expensive part, plus they had all the ancillary stuff like orings and stuff they had to replace at the same time, since they were taking the Inverter apart.
    4. Put a new Junction block assembly on (this is #3 for those keeping track)
    5. Car now runs
    From what I was told, this "transistor kit" was also called the IPM, or brains of the inverter.
     
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    thanks! i thought the transistors were part of the recall.
     
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    Sounds like the IPM recall. Cars go dead on the road without the IPM replacement. Parts have been hard to get though. Lots of posts about it.
     
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    Yep, they did the IPM update back in February, the dealer told me. So, obviously it wasn't enough to keep the IPM from dying.
    :)
     
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    Yup, just what we all wanted to hear. ;)
     
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    I emailed Toyota about this (on my 2010), because I saw others talking about a 15 year extended warranty on the IPM. so, I emailed Toyota about it. Here is what I received:

    "Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.

    We are sorry to hear that you were required to replace the Intelligent Power Module (IPM) on your 2010 Prius.

    We have checked your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) XXXXXXXXXXXXX, and determined that your 2010 Prius is involved in the following Customer Support Program (CSP) or warranty enhancement:

    CSP ZE3
    Certain 2010 -2014 Model Year Prius Vehicles Extension of Warranty Coverage to the Intelligent Power Module (IPM).

    Notification of this warranty enhancement program was sent to vehicle owners beginning in Late August of 2014. As you noted, the warranty enhancement extends the warranty to 15 years from the date of first use with no mileage limitations. Should you have any concerns in the future, and your vehicle still falls within the parameters of this warranty enhancement, you need only reference the CSP number (ZE3) provided.

    Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us."
     
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    congrats!(y)
     
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    i have today same problem dealer want to order G92Z0-47011 parts and he wants all together more $700 , i am shock
     
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    There's a recall. Use that code I posted a coupe messages up. It should be covered 100%.
     
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    you mean this one CSP ZE3?
     
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    Yep.