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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by Paul_Prius-2007, Apr 16, 2015.

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    I have got a problem with my 12V battery because when I don't use a car; my battery was totally dead after 2 days.
    I bought new 12V battery Bosch S4 022 and problem is the same. I checked power consumption when car is off and consumption is 0.8A (800mA). I know consumption should be less than 0.05A (50mA).
    I removed every single fuse below steering wheel and consumption is still 800mA and my battery is going down 16 times faster than should be.
    Any ideas how can I find a fault?
     
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    Hi Paul welcome to PC.
    Have you an after market sound system or alarm installed, and have you removed any fuses in the fuse box under the bonnet. I use the word bonnet because you give your location as Suffolk, and I presume that is Suffolk UK. For the US members I would have used "hood".
    Also check the light in the boot is turned off.

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    Yes you are right I am from Suffolk in UK.
    I never installed alarm system but last owner maybe did it.
    Light in the boot is turned off and all doors closed. All internal lights are turned off. I checked internal fuse box only but I will check second fuse box tomorrow (under the bonnet). I hope consumption go down when I remove one of fuse.
    I know Audio System (Radio) sometimes make a problem and there are 2 Audio System fuses under the bonnet (38. Dome 15 A Fuse and 44. AMP 30 A Fuse). I will start from them.
    I have got one more question: If key fob is 2 meters from car can discharge a battery (No smart key system).
    Thank you for quick response.
    If any other ideas please let me know.
     
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    It is only the smart key that can discharge the battery in close proximity something we did not get with the gen2 in the UK.
    There is a relay in the system that has been known to go faulty with the contacts stuck closed. This is not a common occurrence. I will see if I can trace which relay it is that causes this, but it is possible another member may chime in with this before I can get back to you.
    By far the most common cause is aftermarket alarms or audio amps. If you have the Tsprit model with the amp under the drivers seat these have on rare occasions caused the problem.
    Also check the lights in the vanity mirrors behind the sun visors.

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    Is it 0.8 A immediately after shutdown or 0.8 A 8 hours after shutdown, (when all CPUs are supposed to be asleep) ?

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    My Prius II is the cheapest T3 model. All lights include the vanity mirrors behind the sun visors are turned off when I checked power consumption. It is 0.8A immediately after shut down and 1 hour after shut down. Please let me know how long time Prius (after shutdown) needs to go to be in asleep mode?. When I open a car by key fob is still in asleep mode or is not?
     
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    Paul the best way of checking the current drain is to open the bonnet and fuse box there in. Lock the car. Under the red plastic cover in the fuse box is the jump point.
    Remove the nut holding the cable eye and pull the cable upwards till it is clear of the bolt. This cable is direct from the battery at the rear. The current can now be checked between the bolt and the cable eye without having to open or unlock the doors. The UK version should be all shut down (sleep) in 20 minutes with the amp meter in circuit.
    Hope this helps.

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    Thank you for reply. I checked my battery voltage and is 11.88V in this moment and probably tomorrow morning will be dead.
    I removed fuses under the bonnet. When I removed fuse number 38. DOME 15 A (Audio system, Interior lights, smart entry and start system, gauge and meter, turn signal lights, luggage compartment light, clock) consumption of power go down to 0.2A (200mA).
    When I fit it a fuse again consumption back to 0.8A (800mA). I know 200mA is still too much but is absolutely satisfactory for me.
    I think to check as a first Interior lights and luggage light by remove all light bulbs.
    I really need your help. I hope we sort it out together.
     
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    I will see what I can glean from the circuit diagram, and get back to you.

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    Paul try removing the bulbs from the lights in the bottom of the front doors. The light fittings just pull out from one end.
    Also one at a time try removing relays:- IG2, IGCT, both in the bonnet fuse box.

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    Thank you for reply. I will remove them tomorrow morning. If I do not find fault with bulbs I will try cut off Audio System but I am not sure how I shoul do it. I know about 4 fuses to Audio System 20. ACC 7.5 A, 16. Panel 7.5 A, 44. AMP 30 A and "lucky" fuse number 38. DOME 15 A.
    I will remove 3 other fuses together (I leave just fuse 38) and I hope Audio System will be cut off. If you know other way to cut off Audio System (I have not idea how can I take out a radio) please let me know.
     
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    I have just edited my last post to include two relays.
    Can you read a wiring diagram as that may help you as I can supply yo with this? The dome fuse has links going all over the place so is difficult to follow covering may pages on the diagram.
    Most of the connections appear to be behind the dash. You can get to the radio plugs by removing the speaker in the centre of the dash. You can then see the plugs through the screen.

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    Yes the wiring is much the same for different years. I have that diagram and another that in my opinion is easier to follow although for lefthand drive cars so position of items has to be transposed. If you have not refreshed this page do so and read my post #11 about the relays.
    I am on my way out for my Saturday night pint, but I will check back here in the morning.

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    I am not sure which one is IG2 relay and which one is IGCT.
    I do my best to find them.
     
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    The relays should be marked on the underside of the fuse box lid, but pulling them all out one at a time may help. If the discharge current disappears when you pull one that is the strong suspect for stuck contacts. I can tell you the two light blue relays are for the braking system.

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    I try pull them out but all relays are dificult to take out and I am worry I can brake them.
    I will make a risk anyway but I will be graeteful if you let me know which exactly relay is IG2 and IGCT.
    We have got 9 relays in total.
    1st top row are ABS NO.2 green (small one)
    2nd row ABS MTR 2 blue
    3rd H-LP grey
    4th DIM light blue
    5th row P CON MTR grey, FAN NO.3 light blue(small one), FAN NO.2. red (small one),
    6th row ABS MTR blue, ABS NO.1 green (small one).
     
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    I found relay location.
    IG2 - is connected with fuse 30. AM2 15A
    IGCT - is coneccted with fuse 32. HEV 20A
     
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    Problem is partly sort it out. I removed (IG2, IGCT) 2 fuses from relay B (FIRST RIGHT TOP RELAY) than I connected Multimeter and power consumption was 800mA than I closed a boot door and I activated alarm by fob key and after 5 second consuption was still 800mA than I almost give up but power consumption go down to 150mA. I was sure relay B needs to be replace but I was wrong. I fitted fuses to relay B and I checked PC again (same way) and I discovered when I close door boot and activate an alarm by first 10 seconds PC is 800mA and than go down to 150mA if bonnet is open when bonnet is close alarm needs 10 seconds more to activate (I do not know why).
    I think my electricity works fine but I did not check PC properly because I did not know I have to activate an alarm and than wait about 20 seconds. In my opinion my 12V battery is discharge quickly because is Bosh S4 022 12V Car Battery should not be fit it in Prius!
    I bought this battery on eBay follow item description: "This item fits 12 version(s) of the Prius".
    I need to buy another New 12V battery.
    I hope I am right. Please let me know best quality battery 12V to Prius. Maybe start-stop gel one? Please let me know model details.
    If someone used Bosh S4 022 12V Car Battery please give a feedback for this battery because my feedback in negative.
    I would like to thank to Britprius because I never sort it out without his help and support.