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Want an official word from Toyota in how the 2015 Prius v cruise control works.

Discussion in 'Prius v Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Frank Kwong, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. Frank Kwong

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    I just finished my 2012 Prius TWO lease and bought a new Prius v FIVE with advanced technology package. The cruise control is very different. Would appreciate an official word from Toyota in how the cruise should work.

    * 2012 Prius TWO - Cruise at 65 MPH, use large adjustment to decelerate to 55 MPH when entering a city. Hold the level down until speed is 55 and release lever. Speed stays at 55. When exit city, use large adjustment and hold lever up to accelerate from 55 to 65 and release cruise ever. Speed stays at 65. This always work for the past 39 months.

    * 2015 Prius v FIVE - Cruise at 65 MPH, use large adjustment to decelerate to 55 MPH when entering a city. Hold the level down until speed is 55 and release lever. Speed keeps going down to 45 and level off. When exit city, use large adjustment to accelerate to 65 and release lever. Speed goes all the way to 78 and then level off. This is very dangerous. The Prius v FIVE manual says large adjustment goes up/dn about 4 miles per second of hold time. The manual says ->
    Large adjustment: The set speed can be increased or decreased continually until the lever is released.

    At dealership, they interpret that after the lever is released, the hold time will still be executed fully up/dn before speed is level. This does not make any sense and the Prius TWO does not behave like that. All other Toyota vehicles I have driven 2001 LX470, 2003 SC430 all behaved like the Prius TWO.

    So, please kindly clarify the operation of the 2015 Prius v FIVE cruise control large increment behavior.

    Thanks!

    BTW, the new vehicle (with advanced technical package) had a frozen instrument panel at delivery. I have to pull off the road and turn the engine off to rest the panel in order to turn off the GPS destination voice. Repaired after 2 days and they provided an update to the software and the frozen screen seem to work. Just in case this would affect the cruise control.
     
  2. rdgrimes

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    Your speed control system defaults to "radar assisted" mode. Unless you turn that off it won't behave like any other cruise control.
     
  3. Frank Kwong

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    Do I disable the radar cruise control via the button in the steering column (lower right) in order to regain the normal cruise control?
     
  4. Tideland Prius

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    No. You turn on Cruise like you normally do and before you set the speed, you push the CC stalk away from you to go from radar cruise to constant speed cruise. It's listed in the manual.

    With radar cruise, you set the speed and distance and the car will maintain that distance. To do what you described with radar cruise, you just tap and hold the CC "SET-DECEL" side down like you normally do BUT look at the screen on the dashboard. It shows you what the set speed is. You just hold it down in every 5 mph increments until 55mph is shown on the display.
     
  5. Frank Kwong

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    1st part understand. I turn on normal cruise and then push level away from me to achieve constant speed cruise and disable radar cruise.
    The second part seem like I can still use the radar cruise and I can up/db speed and release the lever by watching the speed on the screen with the two cars and the speed number on the right and not watch the regular speedometer. When I release the lever, the set indicator will come on.

    Thanks!
     
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    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    Btw no one from Toyota ever reads this site.
     
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    Could you use the traditional large increment speed controls (right foot on right and left pedals) then set small increments and cruise as previously?
     
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    not sure how the 2015 works but on my 2010, when you set the speed, it shows the set speed. When you want to increase the speed, you increase the set speed, not the actual speed. don't hold the CC stalk until you reach the actual speed you want to set. Because by that time, your set speed would be in the 70's possibly 80's.
     
  9. Frank Kwong

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    I need to go check the suggestions and then report back. Looks like the laser cruise of the Adv. Tech. Pkg is creating a new scenario for the cruise.
     
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    I idly wonder about that sometimes. If they don't, pretty typical. But hey, isn't there someone from Toyota contributing to the fourth gen speculation thread, Team somebody?
     
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    yes, they're around. and of course, reading every thread would be an enormous burden. you will see them pop up every now and again though, just not when you might expect it. they're marketing, pre sale, not post. :) toyota, like all mfg.'s, would prefer that their dealers adequately handle most questions.
     
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    Toyota's US Marketing arm sometimes tries to market the Prius to existing Prius owners here.

    There is no hint that they know anything about it.
     
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    The Prius Team posts here. They have a presence.

    And as rich and deep a resource as this site is as far as the interaction and commentary of Prius Owners?

    I'd suspect Toyota IS paying attention to some degree to what get's said and posted here. It would be stupid if they don't at least look.

    It's true that direct answers FROM Toyota in regards to technical specifics don't come from any direct source. It's usually US...helping US.

    But I can remember, especially when the Gen 3 was released, The Prius team posting some specific replies to specific questions. So to say "No One From Toyota Ever Reads This Site" I think incorrect.

    There's no "direct connection" formally to Toyota, but I'd "speculate" that they DO pay attention to this site, it's a wealth of revelation as to how owners are reacting to the products...both negative and positive. If they aren't taking a look from time to time, it's their loss.

    And "The Prius Team" is Toyota...and they will and do respond in a careful and limited way.

    Specific Example:
    Before the Gen 3 was released, there was some question as to what grade of gasoline the new Prius was going to run on...The Prius Team at the time, worked and posted here in an effort to get the "Final Word" on fuel grade.

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    However I wouldn't expect anyone from "Toyota" to pop in and formally explain how the Cruise Control Works. The "Official" word on that exists in the owners manual. Or could be gained from the owner contacting Toyota.
     
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    I test the part when the laser cruise is turned off and confirm that the regular cruise setting is working with large increments. I still need to test the part which the laser cruise is turned on.

    The instrument panel is defective definitely, dealer cannot reproduce the problem and they could not fix it. I got it to stop working one day and I drove to the dealer and when I hit the park button, the damn thing worked again. Next day I saw it broke again and I went to the dealer with foot on brake until the service manager came and saw that. Then I put it in park and it was still broken. They have to order the entire module to replace that. I would not buy this advanced tech package next time as it will break and if it breaks after warranty, it'll cost thousands to replace. Do not think it is even repairable. The navigation is definitely not at par with my Garmin in which I can have 2 free map upgrades per year. Will not even recommend this navigation option. Go for the TWO model. Anything above that is a waste of money. BTW how much will it cost to upgrade the map every year with the Prius navigation?

    The so called premium sound is no premium at all. All my music (SD card) sounds the same.

    Also, my gas mileage is shown as 35 (first tank)?? My model TWO was running at 53. May be it takes time to break in? Can somebody shed some light on this issue?

    Overall, this brand new and defective Prius v FIVE has destroyed my confidence with Toyota. I drove the lease TWO for 39 months and no problem at all.
     
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    I don't have radar (dynamic) cruise control and I don't use the stalk to adjust the speed. I use the gas pedal to get up to speed then "set" to set the speed, if I want to lower the speed I use the brake or select "cancel" and when the speed has dropped to my desired speed, press "set" again. If I want to increase the speed I press the gas pedal and when I get up to the desired speed I press "cancel" and "set" again to reset to the new speed. I find this involves less fiddling with the lever.
     
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    So far you haven't presented any evidence here that there's anything "defective" in your Prius. If you're referring to the known issue with the touch-screen display freezing, yes that's a defect. But so far, replacing it doesn't fix it.
     
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    Indeed. Over a lifetime of driving, the right foot and eyes get pretty good at judging the right gross and fine cruise control settings.
     
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    Do not know what you mean by evidence of defective. The panel is frozen after drive for a few minutes. All control not working. Also do not know what you mean by replacing it doesn't fix it. The Lemon Laws says they are 3 chance to fix the same problem. They try to fix it once (update software) and now order the entire module for replacement, that is twice. Hopefully do not have to go to the third round.
     
  19. Frank Kwong

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    This is true for normal cruise. But for the laser cruise (Adv. Tech. Pkg), the default is laser on and control how close you want to be with the vehicle in the front. Combining with the cruise, that can be complicated.
     
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    Let me tell you about this great new car company you haven't heard of! :) Tesla doesn't use dealers and yet they do support their users pre and post sales.