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Prius 3 without MFD

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by marrat, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. marrat

    marrat Junior Member

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    I am in the market for a third gen Prius III for 2010, a 2010 model is the only one in my budget. I was wondering how a Prius 3 without an MFD works regarding all the info. How do you get all the info the MFD offers, if you don't have a Prius with nav/MFD? Is all that info 'lost'? It's a bit weird they didn't offer an MFD without nav in all the models, like the 2nd gen.
    I guess my main question is whether the MFD is essential. Not that the car won't drive without the MFD obviously, but does it offer vital info regarding the car itself? If I disregard the MFD, I can get a significantly lower mileage car for the same price. I might even be able to go for a 2011 model.
     
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    i've never seen one, but there must be a small screen with all the info you need?
     
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    I'm in Europe, there are Aspiration models with and without an MFD. The one's without an MFD have an LCD (?) screen like in the pic below. I don't care for the nav since it's too pricy to update. My gut tells me the MFD shouldn't be too important since they offer models without it, but you never know, The only thing I'll really miss is the backup cam.
     

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    I keep the MFD turned off, I haven't found anything useful there yet.
     
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    Same here, we keep the MFD display off when driving. 99% of the time we know where we're going, so the GPS display is a distraction. Also, steering wheel controls are used for changing radio stations and volume changes.
     
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    99% of the time, mine is showing my usb music. i do like the hsi screen which shows you where your throttle/braking is. that's the upper screen though, does it have that? looking at mar rats pic, i don't see it.
     
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    Isn't there just one MFD where all the info is shown? I'm not sure what you mean with "upper screen". I really liked the MFD when I test drove the Prius, but I see that might've been the "cool gadget" effect. Seeing how the engine was being used was pretty nice. I'm just worried I'll be investing money in something that I'll never bother using after a week. It's a shame people seem to think an MFD makes their car worth 1000+ euros more.
    Thanks for the answer, I'll think about it but I'll probably drop the "must have MFD" from my list of wishes.

    As an addition, I might use the nav if the car has one, but I drove two cars and both had outdated maps. I guess no one bothers updating, I won't pay 180 euros either for new maps. So in the end, I'd be investing 1000+ euros more for the cool things shown on the MFD. Judging by the comments, I guess that'd be pretty stupid.
     
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    I think we might be confusing the MFD with the Nav display and they are completely separate items. In this image, the MFD is on top, the middle display is what you get if you don't have Navigation and the bottom display is the AC/heating data. The top display is for all the data, such as mpg, energy flow, etc. Are you saying you don't have the top display on the dash?


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    everyone gets that, don't they? the nav is really pretty useless in my opinion. maybe if you like having a cheesy built in nav and entune that barely works. or you want to see the power display vs above.
     
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    I'm sorry for the confusion, I seem to have completely misunderstood what was meant by MFD. I was talking about the nav screen which also shows info on the car itself. So can I conclude that the MFD, by which I mean the real MFD now :), has all the info I need? Which would mean I wouldn't even use the LCD display (nav unit).

    Thanks for the clarification guys. I was just stuck with the MFD in the Prius 2, which all versions had. I was set on buying a 2nd gen untill I drove in a 3rd gen. I'll just get a 2010/2011 Aspiration model with low mileage, instead of a 2009 Dynamic model with NAV/info screen. I'll only be missing the LED headlights and the backup cam, but I can live without those.

    I still can't understand they didn't include a decent LCD screen in all models, they still could offer better screens + nav in the higher models. It's as strange as not including cruise control in the cheapest model.
     
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    Here's my thoughts:

    The Nav screen has some car info, but nothing to do with operation of the car itself, like mpg, energy flow, etc. It's mostly for setup of the various nav, audio, phone and app options.

    Even though the Nav is outdated, even after being updated, it still has some usefulness, but IMHO is not worth 1,000 euros by itself. If you travel a lot, it is nice to have the turn-by-turn instructions integrated with the audio system. It was included with the options package I wanted, so there wasn't much choice. And if Toyota didn't lock out and limit so many functions to voice command while moving, it'd be more useful, but still not worth the cost by itself. I use a Garmin Nuvi to find things while moving or things the Prius doesn't have. I then enter them into the Prius and let it guide me. I do a lot of pre-planning too and enter those destinations, my routine works well for me. I have driven on new roads that weren't in the Prius and it's pretty funny how it tries to get you to a road you know.

    As for why they don't include stuff, I assume it's because there's always a market for the budget-minded and every option is an opportunity to make a larger profit. And in the case of the Prius, wanting something like cruise control forces you to upgrade to a model with even more "standard" options at an even greater cost. And with all the electronics today, they've got you even more because it's that much harder to add things DIY.
     
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    Correction, if I may. The "middle" screen is what you have as an alternative to Bluetooth and/or Navigation. I have Bluetooth, not Nav and I have the large, inset screen. Just FYI.
     
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    agreed. a lot of discussion here regarding those things, but no conclusion.:cool:
     
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    Thanks again for the replies. I have a Tomtom unit, so it's very unlikely I'll use the built-in nav unit. During my test drives I didn't really bother going deep into the functions of the screen, but I assumed the info shown would be extensive considering how much electronics the car has. The Prius second gen offered a lot of info when I test drove it. It seems that was an incorrect assumption. Only the Dynamic model, which would be 2009 considering my budget, has that function btw. The Aspirations with built-in nav units don't have a connection to the central computer, thus no info on the car.

    So to sum up, the choices I am faced with are (around the same price):

    2009 Dynamic with 100k+ KM, with the sexy display, back-up cam and LED headlights
    2010 Aspiration with 100k+ KM, with less sexy display and no car info on display.
    2010/2011 Aspiration with ~90k KM without the big display. This one must have PDC because there's no cam.

    I've found a nice 2011 Aspiration I'll be test driving next week, I think that'll be the best choice in my case. The screen in the Dynamic does add more premium feel to the car though.

    If you guys find any fault in my logic, please correct me.
     
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    i like your reasoning. the nav screen is more infotainment than anything else. all the good info is on the dash.i would go with the one you like best on a test drive. to me, gen II/III are really a personal choice, not that different.
     
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    MFD is acronym for Multi Function Display, right?

    Searching the 3rd gen owners manual pdf, I don't see "mfd" or "multi function display". I think it's mainly referred to as "navigation system".

    I do see Multi-information Display. That's the cutesy car picture with arrows going this way and that, get's old in about 5 minutes. Very distracting too.

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    There's also Hybrid System Indicator. This one's quite useful.

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    Both of the above show in the upper dash display, here:

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    Our Canadian Touring model doesn't have the big navigation screen. I really don't miss it. We have the back-up camera, it shows as a small image in corner of rear-view mirror. It's so extremely wide-angle I have little trust in what it's showing me, lol.
     
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    The Euro versions of the gen3 all come with a HUD which can display the Hybrid System Indicator (and current speed) on the screen in front of you as well as on the dash. The US versions didn't get that until the mid life update - I think.

    I find it really really useful.

    Best thing is to go test drive a Prius and see if it works for you.
     
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    How do you turn it off? Although I should not be asking now as mine just went out yesterday on my 2006. As someone else said everything that is still essential i.e. air, defrost, and even the radio can be taken care of with the steering wheels controls. BUT my clock is still working. That surprises me, isn't it part of the unit info? But then the radio controls on the dash still work also. I am tempted to just forget about getting it fixed. My hybrid battery went out last Sept. and Toyota was kind enough to cover that, even the labor. But I doubt they would take care of this as well. This is a great forum.
     
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    So your car has no back-up camera?
     
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    You can turn it off.( MFD.) I do at night often. H