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Hydrogen station at Autobahn

Discussion in 'Fuel Cell Vehicles' started by usbseawolf2000, Jun 26, 2015.

  1. usbseawolf2000

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    As part of the Clean Energy Partnership (CEP), Daimler, Linde and TOTAL have jointly taken an important step forward in the expansion of Germany’s hydrogen (H2) infrastructure. In the presence of Dorothee Bär, Parliamentary State Secretary at the Federal Ministry of Transport and Digital Infrastructure, Germany's first motorway hydrogen filling station was officially inaugurated today. The new H2 filling pump at the TOTAL motorway service area in Geiselwind on the A3 between Würzburg and Nuremberg links the existing filling facilities in the metropolitan regions of Frankfurt/Main, Stuttgart and Munich with each other, forming a hub for electric fuel cell vehicles in southern Germany.

    In her opening speech, State Secretary Bär said: “Electric vehicles with hydrogen fuel cell drives produce no harmful emissions. They have a long range and can refuel in minutes. Politics, science and industry have worked together to bring hydrogen mobility to the brink of market entry. Together with industry, we have provided a total of 1.4 billion euros for research, development and demonstration projects up until 2016. We are now increasingly tackling the development of infrastructure: by the end of 2015, 50 hydrogen filling stations will be available in metropolitan areas and along major roads.​

    Germany's first hydrogen filling station on the autobahn opens | Daimler Global Media Site > Technology > Environment
     
    #1 usbseawolf2000, Jun 26, 2015
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    i can't wait to get mine!(y)
     
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    I am waiting for one to show up NJ.
     
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    at least we have good alternatives in the meanwhile.:)
     
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    Are you hoping to increase your car payment? Too bad the car manufacturures won't take your money if you don't live close to a fueling station, and that is all most the whole world.
     
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    i know, i'm just looking for alternatives. probably not in my lifetime, but it may be time to get serious about solar.
     
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    Not yet but it'll come down.

    Hydrogen could replace gas/diesel as racing sport fuel, due to fast refueling speed. BEV 30 mins recharging (80%) is a show stopper.

    I predict FCV to dominate in EV racing sports.
     
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    I imagine battery swapping at under two minutes would be a lot more popular for racing BEVs than it has been for personal cars.

    Both would require a big infrastructure investment for a raceway, or at least very expensive, portable equipment. Liquid fuels for extended races are delivered to the cars by hand, in gas cans that resemble giant funnels. A hand pump from a drum could fill that up before the next pit stop.

    Then several race circuits are already using alcohols, with methanol the most common, for their higher octanes. It could be said they are ahead on biofuel use over the general public.
     
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    Methanol was the methane or hydrogen (can be made from hydrogen + c02 + solar and/or wind) derivative fuel in racing. Methanol was used as primary race fuel in some race divisions from IIRC from 1980-2007, but now only used for monster trucks.

    I can see a separate hyrogen class, but it could not compete with methanol or gasoline hybrids, or even bev if allowed to swap packs.

    I hope you are right with the prices coming down.
     
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