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How to check 12v battery

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Ralith, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. Ralith

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    I just purchased a used 2010 Prius III w/JBL (non-nav with 63k miles on it) and I was wondering how to check the 12v battery. I did see how to check it with the nav, but I don't have that so wasn't sure if there is anyway to tell? I can do a multimeter to the jumper point I guess to check, but not sure what numbers I should really expect to tell dead vs good.

    I have no idea if it is the original battery. Does anyone know what the OEM battery looks like?

    I drive 150-200 mi/day, with about 4-5 stops for 45-75 minutes each, so I think the 12v battery should do pretty well if it is in good condition.

    Thanks!
     
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    welcome to priuschat, congrats on your new car! test it with the multi, in the morning before turning it on. post the result here and someone will tell you if it's good, marginal or bad. all the best!(y)
     
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    If you see a black Yuasa battery back there... under the floor at the right rear of the car, use a 10mm wrench or socket to get the hold down bracket off the top of the battery. It is typically right under this hold down, in the middle of the battery, that you will see the date of manufacture... if it is 2009 or 2010 start thinking about having a set of jumper cables in the car or start looking for deals on a replacement battery in the near future. You drive enough miles per day though to let the car recharge the battery that is in there, just that as this battery possibly approaching 5 years of service, it would not be unusual for it to fail in a year or 2.

    Varies from owner to owner, hot weather shortens battery life, as does draining them down too far on a regular basis. From where I sit up in the pacific northwest, you are in a hotter part of the continent. You don't know if the previous owner drained the battery to the point of needing a boost. You will find plenty of 12 volt threads in the forum to give you all the info you need... but guessing that your high mileage means downtime is a bummer as your Prius is an important part of your daily life... have a look back there and see if the battery was changed. If not bite the bullet imho.

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    The readings should be 12.9 volts on a fully charged battery with no load. I believe my battery drops to as low as about 11.5 to 11.7 volts under load, that should be the minimum. If it goes below that, you should think about getting a replacement.

    SM-N900P ?
     
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    You might find a Scangauge II to be a worthwhile investment!

    DROID4 ?
     
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    A $10 multi-meter might work just as good.
    The Scangauge is good for lots of OTHER stuff though.

    The sad truth is that you can't always tell how soon a battery might fail.
    Charging it up good, letting it sit overnight and then having a load test done on it is probably the best test.
    Many auto parts stores and battery shops will do a load test for free.
     
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    You're quite correct... ...and I should have added, I use my ScanGauge II for (1) ICE RPM, (2) Secondary Battery Voltage, (3) Traction Battery Charge/Discharge | State-of-Charge, (4) ICE Coolant temp. When I get some disposable $$, I plan to add another SG II.
     
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    Thanks for the help! I've thought about getting a scangauge, but never had a real need for it. Might look into getting one. I'll try and check tomorrow what thee voltage is before I leave for work.
     
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    ...you're quite welcome! I should have mentioned that there's a very quick way to check the Sec. Bat. voltage which involves bringing up the main display in "Diagnose" mode (I can't remember the exact details but you should be able to find it hereabouts using the "search" function). It's fairly easy to do, and I used it before I got my SG. Good luck, and welcome to PriusChat!
     
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    This is what ours looks like. This was replaced by the dealer when the car was purchased (new); the car had been sitting on the lot too long, had toasted the orig battery:

    Prius Battery 02.jpg

    And someone else here posted this pic, a while back:

    Prius Battery.jpg

    If you hook up a multi-meter, either at the battery posts or at the under hood jump start point, a 100% battery will be around 12.6 volt or higher. Anything lower than 12.5 volt you want to keep an eye on. Under 12.4 volt it's days are numbered.

    Addendum:

    Hmm, just checked ours, it's at 12.4 volt, not so good. Hooked up my CTEK 3300, see how that does.
     
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    You didn't have a door open during or immediately before taking that reading, did you ??
    Some stuff fires up with the drivers door and stays on for a little while.
     
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    I usually open the passenger door and reach across to release the hood, but this time opened drivers door, got the pressurizing response. Could be a factor, if something continues to draw power due to that. The noises were long gone.

    It's been a while since I've hooked up the CTEK anyway, will see how it goes.

    Thanks for the tip.
     
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    12.9 volts?? Maybe if you have some surface charge still left from charging it... 12.8V is more accurate if it's completely full. That said, mine has measured 12.5V since the day I got the car, and it's still working fine.

    It can take a few minutes for the voltage to fully recover. The manual says to test 20 minutes after the hybrid system and all lights are turned off. So pop the hood and come back a while later to do your measurement.

    Personally, I might start to pay attention around 12.2V, and get concerned below 12V (with no load - any door open, even with the interior lights turned off - causes a load). But I guess I'd rather not spend money that I don't have to, the tradeoff being that I'm more willing to risk the battery dying before I replace it. Feel free to pick your own level to get concerned based on how attached you are to your money, or how inconvenient it would be to get a jump start.
     
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    I got 12.53v, but I had just opened the door and trunk a few minutes earlier.

    Is there a way to check the health of the traction battery at all?
     
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    Well, for an update I now have ~117k miles on my prius. Never had an issue with the battery, never had to jump it. I did try to jump someone else's car and I think it is VERY hard to find a neutral on the prius hood (I could hardly find one for my multimeter... the metal is all painted). I let the car sit for several hours after I last drive it and I checked my battery today and it read 12.95v. I drove ~200 miles for work and then another 5 mi around town in the evening. I had hood open and all lights off, but I only waited a minute or so to test after lights were on. So, going by simple voltage, my battery is doing fine.

    Also, does anyone know if that number on the right under the GSYUASA is the date of manufacture? Mine reads 090509W. Judging by the other picture which had 240210W, I am guessing it is DD/MM/YY, so Feb 24, 2010? So my battery is May, 9, 2009? over 6 years old??

    I've gotten approx 52-53 avg MPG over the last ~50-60k miles. I was getting 56-57mpg in the summer, but I have brand new tires and its dropped to like 51-53 MPG now.