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Info on planetary-gear CVT?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Glider, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. Glider

    Glider New Member

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    The G3 CVT looks very clever to me!!

    I'm interested in a really good and detailed read on this that goes beyond pictures of spinning gears, mention of high torque and no slippage.

    Any ideas??

    Thanks
     
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    Jabber Chicagoland Prius Guy

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    :D I imagine that would be hard to come by unless you are collecting a paycheck from Toyota's engineering department. If you do happen to find something, please share though. As geeky as that sounds, I wouldn't mind reading up on it either.
     
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    I was fascinated when I did a web search on automatic transmissions and found a really good page with diagrams and animations. It appears to me that the Prius PSD is basically a 2-speed automatic transmission, with no reverse and with all of the hydraulic coupling (torque converter), etc, removed. Since the sun and ring are attached to electric motors instead of just locking-up, you get continuously-variable and reverse.

    Not highly technical, I know, but it explained things well enough for me. (If my observation is correct.)
     
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    Only difference between Gen II and Gen III is the planetary reduction gear on MG2, where the planet carrier is locked. Otherwise, they function identically.
     
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    Thanks. everyone !!! The comments and source material that you provided will give me and others interested in this topic some great reading material.

    - g
     
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    And, Gen I is functionally identical to Gen II, except that the Gen I ring gear is overly complicated and is supported on numerous needle bearings, most of which were eliminated in Gen II when the ring gear was reduced from numerous smaller components to one major component.

    The Gen III MG2 rotates at about 2.5 times the rate of the Gen II and Gen I MG2, both of which rotate at 1.0 times, so the larger Gen III MG2 delivers about 2.5 times of its rated capacity to the wheels, compared to Gen I and Gen II, which deliver 1.0 times their rated capacities to the wheels.

    Nevertheless, Gen I and Gen II remain competent vehicles, when appropriately maintained, and when operated within their performance limitations.
     
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    I found these Youtube videos by WeberAuto to be interesting demonstrations on how MG1 and MG2 work to act like a CVT with the engine.

     
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    Very educational. :D
     
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    Download the publication at http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub26762.pdf.
    It is an evaluation report on the Gen III Hybrid Synergy Drive done by the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. They did a tear-down of the HSD, then attached various components to their test equipment and measured performance under varying conditions.
     
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