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Hybrid Dashboard Summary: August 2015

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Sep 3, 2015.

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When to post dashboard summary?

Poll closed Sep 17, 2015.
  1. Last days of previous month to reserve the thread

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  2. When source data from Jeff Cobb is available

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    1 Prius Liftback 10450 11203 9559 11921
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel 4093 4775 5050 5647
    3 Prius c 3844 3517 2756 3763
    4 Camry Hybrid 3314 2756 2755 3174
    5 Prius v (lowercase v) 3119 2620 2272 3152
    6 Fusion Hybrid 2441 2157 1691 2440
    7 Passat Diesel 1991 2372 2489 2769
    8 Golf Sportwagon Diesel 1977 2174 1506 1419
    9 Jetta Diesel 1820 1999 1852 2141
    10 Sonata 1647 1837 2334 2943
    11 Model S 1600 1800 2800 2300
    12 CT200h 1504 1374 1118 1436
    13 C-Max Hybrid 1501 1225 1814 1892
    14 Leaf 1393 1174 2074 2104
    15 Volt 1380 1313 1225 1618
    16 Accord Hybrid 1369 1481 1241 1463
    17 Avalon Hybrid 1322 1175 973 1114
    18 ES Hybrid 1281 891 711 911
    19 Optima Hybrid 1167 873 897 1046
    20 Golf Diesel 954 903 955 1011
    21 Fusion Energi 949 852 727 986
    22 i3* 792 935 551 818
    23 C-Max Energi 723 693 667 715
    24 MKZ 713 725 700 1005
    25 RX 400 / 450 h 599 530 486 551
    26 Civic Hybrid 590 463 391 458
    27 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 455 559 493 557
    28 Q5 Diesel 421 567 462 517
    29 Q7 Diesel 412 506 360 386
    30 Touareg Diesel 411 374 328 348
    31 X5 Diesel 391 233 422 1299
    32 Q50 Hybrid 384 381 347 342
    33 e-Golf 381 313 293 410
    34 Highlander Hybrid 377 304 311 323
    35 500E 370 353 411 471
    36 Prius Plug In 344 584 464 727
    37 Grand Cherokee Diesel 343 317 309 364
    38 CR-Z 333 270 204 246
    39 3-Series Diesel 319 232 316 670
    40 Cayenne Diesel 288 254 311 250
    41 Cruze Diesel 279 372 350 390
    42 Lacrosse Hybrid 275 322 341 498
    43 QX60 Hybrid* 240 226 180 188
    44 GL-Class Diesel 236 265 307 383
    45 Pathfinder Hybrid* 212 234 215 223
    46 i8 210 217 137 117
    47 NX Hybrid 206 234 203 250
    48 5-Series Diesel 198 89 82 74
    49 Focus EV 176 135 152 165
    50 B-Class Electric 172 196 242 278
    51 X3 Diesel 147 96 103 123
    52 Spark 135 57 226 283
    53 GLK Class Diesel 133 143 131 111
    54 E-Class Diesel 128 103 91 80
    55 Beetle Diesel 122 101 78 96
    56 A6 Diesel 108 137 155 134
    57 forTwo EV 106 109 94 102
    58 Jetta Hybrid 98 91 66 55
    59 Soul EV 93 59 109 108
    60 A3 Diesel 90 165 274 313
    61 Insight 85 113 126 139
    62 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 83 77 89 111
    63 A7 Diesel 60 65 78 64
    64 ELR 45 66 62 116
    65 Panamera S E-Hybrid 36 23 34 21
    66 A8 Diesel 34 34 45 28
    67 RLX Hybrid 34 28 27 24
    68 Promaster Van Diesel 32 15 22 25
    69 Impala Hybrid 27 23 24 53
    70 Civic 24 66 124 44
    71 Regal Hybrid 16 8 17 23
    72 Regal Hybrid 16 8 17 23
    73 Q70 Hybrid 13 11 12 14
    74 S550 Plug In 10 10
    75 i 6 12 23 18
    76 Q5 Hybrid 5 8 5 17
    77 GS 450h 4 11 7 8
    78 ML Class Diesel 3 7 5
    79 LS 600h 3 5 1 7
    80 Yukon Hybrid 3 2 2 3
    81 E400H 2 2 0 2
    82 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) 2 1 5 5
    83 Accord Plug In 2 1 4 5
    84 7-Series ActiveHybrid 1 0 1
    85 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 0 5 2 2
    86 Malibu Hybrid 0 1 27 2
    87 ML450H 0 1 5
    88 Touareg Hybrid 0 1 2 6
    89 Tahoe Hybrid 0 0 4 1
    90 Escalade Hybrid 0 0 3
    91 ILX Hybrid 0 0 1 4
    92 RAV4 EV 0 0 0 4
    Source: Jeff Cobb's Hybrid Market Dashboard - HybridCars.comHybridCars.com (well worth reading!)

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    The initial numbers look as expected compared to July. Understand the hybrid skeptics are going to use the worst, year-to-year, which is why I prefer to look at the last four months for a true trend. Looking at only the last month or the previous year month is a statistical way to lie to oneself and miss the trends. Still, I did peek at the last month and here is the short list of a future summary (this note will be prepended with the table):

    FYI, some numbers on efficient vehicles:

    10,450 – Prius hatch (-6.7% vs 07/15)
    4,093 – Ram Pickup Diesel (-14.3% vs 7/15)
    3,844 – Prius c (+9.3% vs 7/15)
    3,314 – Camry hybrid (+20.2% vs 7/15)
    3,119 – Prius v (+19% vs 7/15)
    2,441 – Fusion hybrid (+13.2% vs 7/15)
    • Everyone else under 2,000 units
    • Prius hatchback is under new-model announcement, sales chill.
    • Leading Prius and hybrids are doing very nicely compared to July.
    • The Ram diesel took it on the chin as did the other diesels
    • Notice the larger Camry, Prius v, and Fusion all did well
    One last thing, I am thinking about starting the "Hybrid Dashboard Summary: September 2015" the last days of September as a place holder. It usually takes Jeff Cobb's team a couple of days to get their data, my source, out and then I have to massage to show the four-month trends. But I also notice some folks are tacking on to the previous month's thread.

    By announcing the thread before the data, we have a base to add additional details about September in the thread titled September. Still I'm always interested any suggestions. So I'll post this one with a poll.

    Thanks,
    Bob Wilson
     
    #1 bwilson4web, Sep 3, 2015
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    Japan August 2015 Sales / ytd
    #1 Toyota Aqua - 12,390 / ytd - 151,341
    #2 Toyota Sienta - 7,736 / ytd - 15,113 (2 months)
    #3 Toyota Corolla - 7,715 / ytd - 73,991
    #4 Honda Fit/Jazz - 6,765 / ytd - 85,721
    #5 Toyota Prius - 6,618 / ytd - 87,438
     
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    Glad to see the the Aqua (Prius C) is still holding onto the #1 spot in Japan. :):)
     
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    I am philosophical this month. Hybrids save lots of CO2 but cost more and have zero subsidies. (US Gov't choosing to subsidize plug-ins but not hybrids). If we had the EPA equivalent of the Clean Power Plan for cars, mandating CO2 reductions, then hybrids play a role.

    Right now we are just waiting for something good to happen. The EPA equiv. to the Clean Power Plan, if it ever comes, would involve forced retirement of SUVs/small trucks and mandates for low CO2 vehicles without prejudice against hybrids.
     
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    Force retirement, never happen, they will just keep making it tougher to smog ever year. You will either pay to keep it on the road or give up on it as it costs too much to fix.
     
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    seems like the larger hybrids are doing pretty well, that's a good thing. down with diesel.
     
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    versus how many prius?
     
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    That 26 mpg combined blows away the 20 mpg Lexus LSh and the regular S550,, but lets face it, if you want efficiency you go for the tesla. It may give the S class less bleeding to tesla than the Lexus in the US and Europe. The Lexus should stay fine in Japan as they won't buy either of those competing cars.

    2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 Plug-In Hybrid First Drive – Review – Car and Driver
    TCO should be lower than those 6 liter 12 cyclinder S class as well. BMW and Mercedes seem to be going plug-in for luxury. Audi predicts 40% of luxury cars will be plug-ins in the near future..

    The leading hybrid world wide is the aqua/prius c with 143,811 world wide january to june. Most of these were in Japan.

    2016 Toyota Prius Photos and Info – News – Car and Driver
    Last nights show and tell may help septermber and october sales prius sales, versus no reveal. My thinking is half of those waiting for the gen IV, will take a look at it and decide on a discounted gen III. I was surprised they didn't accentuate the changes and let journalists and prius chat representatives take a test drive.

    GM's strange spring model year change of the volt may smell of a botched roll out, and sales may not spike this year as much as expected.
    Chevrolet Volt National Launch Delayed For "Additional Content" Added To 2017 Model
    I can't think of any added content that could not just snap into a 2016 model, but we will wait and see.
     
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    While the top selling car in Japan is the aqua (prius c), Japanese hybrid stimulus caused a peak in hybrid car purchases in the past. It will be hard for Japan to top old numbers without another stimulus - which is exactly what the japanese government did this year.
    Milestone: Toyota sees hybrids making up half of domestic sales- Nikkei Asian Review
    Expect the calander year to be down in japan, but the 2015-2016 fiscal year for toyota should be high on japanese hybrids.

    I don't know about europe. My guess is it is not a very big hybrid number compared to japan.
     
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    ...there was a terrible article on GasBuddy quoting the decline in Plug-in Prius and Volt1 sales as proof that hybrid sales were dropping precipitously. Hybrids actually performed better than the overall car market in August, according to the Washington Hybrid Report:

    Yes we are down from the peak sales, if we look at Hybrid+Plug_ins it's probably not too bad.
     
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    Not too shabby for Prius LB under the circumstances
     
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    gonna be a glut of gen IV's on the market if oil keeps receding. i hope it's similar when the pip comes out next year. great job by our government to promote low mpg vehicles.(y)