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Dorman battery appears to have failed after 3 months

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Bill S., Nov 14, 2015.

  1. terramir

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    It going from purple to blue to green and back down quickly is a sign of a very reduced capacity battery. I got that problem I do not know how long till it fails through. This is why as I am researching replacing mine with something that will do the job better.
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    Actually lifepo4, ten times the safety of li-ion still twice the capacity for the weight than NiMH batteries. Li-ion batteries have a tendency to vent with flame.
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    interesting. is that a chemistry, or a brand?
     
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    It's a chemistry, lithium iron phosphate, the oxygen bond is far stronger hence, a lot safer, nominal voltage 3.2V per cell max charging voltage 3.65 V.
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    why don't they use it in bev's?
     
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    Bev? Well in EV they usually go for the higher capacity since regular li-ion are cheaper and higher capacity. And the manufacturers have the design teams, to safely use li-ion cells. Regular li-ion cells are a fire hazard venting with flame is the industry term. It means just explode lol.
    Lifepo4 are really rugged, charging rates of like a few minutes to 80% SOC are not uncommon.
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    thank you.
     
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    Yeah, just ask Boeing about their flaming LI-ion batteries.
     
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    I emailed Dorman on Saturday. I got the P3000 code and the tech said three cells read low. I emailed Dorman on Saturday. I called today to follow up. The guy handling my claim left early so another guy was looking into it. I gave him my number, he did not return my call. I called back at 4:37, they close at 4:30. I can't say I'm impressed. Tomorrow's call will be more involved.
     
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    that is disappointing to say the least. they were the last man standing for refurbs.
     
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    If I ever get this battery replaced, this car is for sale. This isn't worth it at all. I will order the disk and wire to get the info so I can send it to them and be done with this experience and hybrids. Gas is cheap compared to the effort required to get this taken care of.
     
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    agreed. there are some nice gassers out there, but the prices are high. get a great deal on a 2015 prius! when gas prices rise, if you're tired of it, sell high and buy gasser low.(y)
     
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    I never buy "new" cars. I drive 30k plus miles per year. I'll buy an Accord (Manual trans) with 100k and drive it for three or four years. My 03 Acura CL-S 6M (6 Speed manual) has 200k but it takes premium so I may sell it. I'll never own another Prius unless battery prices and quality get better. This experience has been enough for me. I can get 32MPG from an Accord. Another 12 or so MPG from something that causes this much of a headache isn't enough incentive.
     
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    it's never about the money.
     
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    Actually, that's the only reason I bought it (to save money). Doing the math with today's gas prices, it will take 2 years to spend $1200 (in the Accord) at the current gas prices. A reman battery is just over $1200. I'll pay the $1200 in gas and happily replace a timing belt. My Acura has the original clutch (at 201,000 miles). The only items I had to deal with on the Acura were an alternator, 1 12V battery, tires, brakes, belts, oil etc. All things that would have been needed on the Prius. Don't get me wrong, if you buy a NEW Prius with a warranty, it would be a great car. As much as I drive, I can't take that much depreciation.

    I like the hatch and the gas mileage but with my schedule and the fact that I don't want to get stranded in the middle of nowhere with another battery issue, this just isn't practical. The morning the battery had issues, I was heading to an appointment 2 hours away. Had that happened there, I would have had a tow bill and a rental car.

    The Dorman people replied today after I sent an email to several people at once. They still don't have the info they need to decide if the battery is bad. All I know is the two scanners I have had read the codes both gave codes that said to replace the hybrid battery. The battery goes from dead to charged and back to dead quickly. Apparently they need more detail. I understand their need for info but a reply to an email is nice, especially since my email was discussing the second trip to get the codes read.
     
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    that's part of what's holding back alt fuel cars. people look at the economics instead of the benefits.
     
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    I use a car to get from point A to point B to point C. If I drove 5 miles to work and back, I wouldn't care. As I depend directly on a vehicle to make my living, I want something I can depend on. Economics, maybe. Benefits? A hybrid offers me limited benefits as my time has value and using my time to troubleshoot the battery issues isn't of any benefit to me at all. If I can't be going to my appointments, I don't make money. Please don't think I'm being sarcastic or rude, I'm really not. This type of car saves me money on gas but I could easily lose any and all benefits in lost productivity. Again, this probably wouldn't be an issue if I wanted to invest in a "new" Prius. If the battery on my gas car checks out, I get a jump or roll it down a hill and dump the clutch. Problem solved, back to making a living. 30 minutes at a parts store and $100 later and I can still make all of my appointments.
     
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    not at all. you aren't being sarcastic or rude. you're just being like the average person. understand completely.
     
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    Noone should ever buy a hybrid to "save money".
    There are too many low priced gas-only you cars.
    Plus most people don't really spend that much in gas every year. Especially at these ridiculously low prices. (saw $1.67 yesterday.)

    Dorman's requirements for warranty replacement of the battery are pretty straight forward.
    Provide them the needed info and I'm sure they will take care of you quickly.
    Do you have a copy of the Warranty replacement requirements? I think it's on their website.