Volt 2.0: Ruess "It will leap-frog... the competition"

Speaking of gasoline numbers, Wayne Gerdes just finished his gas economy run in the 2016 volt and managed 57.1 mpg. A nice increase over EPA of 42 but not so much for Wayne's usual efforts. I've found serial mode operation, when the ICE is running mainly as a electrical generator, is more difficult to manipulate with techniques like P&G than in parallel mode.

 

Yes, having more choices is always good. But the Prius is still number 1 and I wouldn't hesitate buying another one.

A GREAT piece of engineering, reliable, and fun to drive.

DBCassidy

 

Reliable is the key, economy follows in turn.

 

Actually people who REALY own Volt seem to love it, I try my self the 2016 absolutely love. it blow my prius in most aspect except price and size in the end it was to small so the Prius win.
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A co-worker of mine is looking at the Volt - left over 2015, not 2016. He saying he can get the 2015 for a bargain - dealer wants the leftovers off the lot.

DBCassidy

 

A co-worker of mine also bought a Volt, inspired by my PiP and PV panels.

He didn't realized it cost more to run on EV than his gas miles, until I pointed out.

Plugins are a tough sell now.

 

Maybe in your neck of the woods.
Plugins sell quite well in Minnesota. Although it is true our electricity is cheaper, people also enjoy the other advantages of plugins.

 

how can you tell, are there state by state sales figures?

 

Drive by Numbers - Tesla in all 50 states

 

Articles such as this: Minnesota’s Battery Electric Vehicle Sales Beat the Odds in 2015 | Great Plains Institute
Unfortunately I don't have access to the source data, but the data is there.

Also, we get an indication of growth locally from clubs and organizations we are in contact, although this isn't as reliable as the actual sales numbers.

Merged.

That was compiled over two years ago.

 

More important than sales is attitude, since that persists throughout ownership. The years of hate from "vastly superior" enthusiasts only existed online. When the plug-in owners club would meet, we were all friends together working toward a common cause. This "leap frog the competition" discussion thread highlights the problem.

In the club, there's a diverse set of plug-in owners. We all recognize the competition as traditional vehicles. Only those smug few online, who unfortunately spoke as representatives for their peers, saw the competition as other plug-in vehicles. That head-butting caused a lot of trouble over the years and consequently impaired progress forward.

Thankfully, the rollout of gen-2 offerings woke them up from their complacency. In fact, there are a few individuals who were former foes that are now friends. The nonsense of "range anxiety" has vanished with the advent of 200-mile potential. Part of that comes from the realization that those tax-credits which they were heavily dependent upon will quickly vanish as a result of delivering a truly popular vehicle.

What I find most redeeming is the vindication of cost being the highest priority. It seemed so simple of a message: "The design must be affordable for the masses to accept it." Yet, that belief was met with fierce resistance. Costly approaches were justified with twisted excuses and the dismissal of facts. Sadly, despite finally getting recognition of importance, we'll be dealing with the collateral damage from that for years to come.

Long story short, the plug-in options we endorse must be appealing to ordinary consumers. No matter how appealing certain aspects of performance are, selling those vehicles profitability in high-volume is the ultimate goal. That ability to provide business-sustaining revenue is vital.

 

i'm more concerned with leaf sales. tesla will likely sell for many reasons. leaf and other ev's are more likely to be affected by gas prices and government incentives.

 

World’s First 300,000-Mile Chevrolet Volt

 

Good points John.

DBCassidy

 

Gas only efficiency is 38.4 MPG.

Combined with 35% EV miles, it boosted up to 48.4 MPGe.

Am I missing something or where is the leap?

 

The thread title is referring to the 2016 and the 300k car is a 2012. So, yes you are missing something.

 

You probably missed that Gen1 Volt was supposed to leapfrog Gen3 Prius. The data suggests it doesn't.

Yes, the thread title was referring to Gen2 Volt leapfrogging Gen4 Prius again. We'll see when Volt2 has enough data.

 

Winding Road 2016 Chevrolet Volt Video Review

 

Boring

DBCassidy