Read a bit more thoroughly the owner's manual and...

Are the rear lights on when only on DRL?

Light fog during the day and the car from the rear is invisible, because light sensor doesn't see fog conditions, or does it?

 

Me too. The system works nearly perfect.

And if you don't want to use the trip computer for example (showing odometer, trip A, trip B, actual trip and miles/kilometer till your tank is empty) press the button in the wheel till these things aren't shown anymore. It is possible to ignore most of the playful things if you simply want to drive and avoid all the fun.

 

You must have the "super duper"' industrial strength Rain-X? I still need wipers. I filled the windshield wiper reservoir with Rain-X, and I use the spray-on Rain-X window treatment/cleaner... It hasn't made much of a difference, if any.

(And I still see nuts driving around at night, with no lights on! It must be thugs leaving the scene of a crime... Or drunk drivers...)

 

It just struck me that Toyota omitted two critical warnings:

"CAUTION: Repeated reading of this manual may warp your brain irretrievably."

"It is advisable to have legal counsel present when reading this manual."

 

A lot of cars nowadays (including all generations of Prius, actually) have instrument clusters that are always backlit, instead of only when the headlights are on.

So, a lot of people expect that if they can read the instruments, and see dimly ahead of them (with either ambient light or DRLs), that their lights are on... but on modern cars, that's not necessarily the case.

 

Around here it's the law that lights must be on when it is raining. Yet one sees many cars driving in the rain without lights. Most cars these days are silver or shades of gray, which blend with the gray of the pavement so they are difficult to see, especially in the rain.
Which makes me wonder: since we have rain-sensing windshield wipers, why not tie the headlights and taillights into that circuit so they are activated in the rain as well - when the ignition is on of course. Failing that, an error massage saying "it's raining, turn on your headlights, idiot!"

 

Exactly the problem, front daylights on and no rear lights, I prefer to have running lights on and turn off the drl's, which are on with the running lights (3) clicks vs (2) clicks for just drl's, I'm much more concerned about getting hit unbeknownst from behind.

 

Will that be MASSAGING seats turned to Turbo?

 

Heh, well, I drive the Prius (Pearl S) all spring, summer, and fall. When the snow gets bad I switch to the FJ Cruiser (though I do drive the FJ once a week to keep it operational). Anyway, when I switch to the FJ I need to be "retrained" to 20th Century technology. Yup, I have to actually use the keys, I have to control the lights, etc. etc.

 

Darn spell correct! I could use an error massage right now.

But it brings up an important point: how can the Model 4 Touring be called "fully loaded" if it lacks massaging seats??? Seriously!!

 

Yeah or those that have blacked/tinted their rear lights.

LG-H901 ?

 

Honestly, I wouldn't mind if the laws went to motorcycle levels for lighting.

Key on? All lights are on, all you get is a choice between high and low beam.

 

Why spoil natural selection ?

 

Count me in as a DRL non believer.
I visited Canada back in the early 90's with an entirely open mind about the concept. Two weeks later I returned to the USA and concluded that the DRL concept was not viable. It was a relief to be in traffic and not having multiple glaring headlights all around, and in my mirrors.
Their glare does mask other non glaring sources like bikes and pedestrians,even the rear ends of cars ahead of me. Put a bright light source in a scene and take a picture, the cameral adjusts to the glare and renders the rest of the picture darker. My eyes do the same, they adjust to the elevated light levels, and that renders all other non headlight features less visible.
My understanding is that there is no objective proof they actually enhance safety. The concept would seem intuitive, but as a student of science I know that intuition is often dead wrong.
Last time I was in Canada, (Edmonton in fact) to be honest, there were the occasional vehicles without DRL's and they actually caught my eye. I suspect because their difference from all the other vehicles I think made them conspicuous to my diver's mind, which is always on alert for unusual occurrences.
What about the sides and the rear of the car? Shall we put DRLs on those too? Would not an ideal DRL be on the roof and be visible for all 360 degrees?
I can see other vehicles just fine in the the daytime, because, well, it is daytime.
I used point out how much CO2 they produced due to fuel burned to power the incandescent lights, but current trend towards LED ones are far better on that score.
That said, I must put up (if not shut up) and have resorted to thin wedges of precisely placed dark tint applied the left side of my driver's glasses so with a tip of my head I can attenuate the oncoming glare, especially those drivers (particularly motorcyclists) who apparently think DRLs are good, so nighttime high beams are even more of a good thing.

 

I live in country where day lights are mandatory for over 10 years, I think for the first 5 years it wasn't mandatory for cars to have automatic DRL, so we were running normal lights at day.

Benefits: lights make the car more visible there is no denying in that, safety IN A CAR is greatly improved.
Drawbacks:
- people start to pay attention only on light on the road, bicycles, pedestrians or old cars that simply forget to turn their lights on, are more in danger than before
- with automatic DRLs, people start to forget to use their lights manually when it's needed, auto lights (with light sensor) even magnifies the problem in fog.
- the biggest fail of automatic DRLs is that on almost all of the cars rear lights are not ON

Glaring in the middle of the day is non issue if lights are properly shaded.

 

One thing I've noticed, with cars having Daytime Running Lights and turn signals in close proximity: it can be nigh impossible to discern turn signals when they're oncoming.

 

You are aware that since at least 1975 motorcycles have been wired so the headlights are always on when the ignition is on? The only choice is high or low beam. Motorcycle headlights flash more because bikes bounce around more, and because the lights turn with the steering. Headlight aim is also affected by acceleration and by having a passenger on the back.

I agree that motorcycles should not run with high beam on constantly, either during the day or at night. But motorcycles suffer from the fact that drivers often fail to "see" them, even if the driver appears to be looking straight at them (which you can't tell at night of course). Flashing the high beam may annoy a driver but at least it virtually guarantees their attention so that they don't pull into your path.