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Likely MH370 part found by American adventurer

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    I've always liked L1011 and DC-10s. Not to fly in, particularly, although they were OK. But to look at. I thought both looked very sleek and retro-futuristic.

    All of that does sound fun.

    Ah, yes. A private jet. I would love one. But only if it were running on hydrogen or something so I didn't have to feel too guilty.

    I would particularly like a private jet instead of my next four-engined flight. In April, we're going to visit my parents in Britain. We'll be on four-engined planes all the way (so tochatihu would be happy). But they are knackered old A340s. For 25 hours each way, with a brief stop each way in the paradise that is Manila Airport. Mmmm. Mind you, we are paying less than US$ 600 each, return - just under US$ 12 for every hour we're in the sky, or 2.8 US Cents per mile - so I can't complain.
     
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    Half way around the world, in a day, for that amount of money is absurd if you think about it. What hath Whittle wrought?
     
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    It is remarkable. My mother-in-law tells me that, in her youth, it took six weeks to get to Britain by ship, if you were lucky, and that it cost about two months' wages for someone in a good, professional job.

    Mind you, we were very lucky with that ticket: normally, a return flight to Britain costs around US$ 1,000 if you're lucky, and US$ 1,800 - 2,000 if you're not. Still, even that is unbelievably cheap if you think about it.

    We're close to the Sydney airport flight path (landing or taking off, depending on the wind direction), and I often look at the planes when I'm hanging the washing out - obviously you can tell where the foreign ones are going - and wonder what the first residents of our house (it's about 100 years old) would think if I were to say "That one's going to Incheon, and that one's going to Guangzhou, and that one's going to Los Angeles, and each of them has 500 people in it."
     
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    The problem is - if it's at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, that's 2½ - 3 miles DEEP. At that depth, pressures are colossal, beyond comprehension.
     
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    Interesting point about the pressure, I guess they could tell if these pieces went all the way down and floated back up, or were due to surface crash. The thought of finding in-tact wreckage I would think is slim now.

    This piece may not be MH370.
    I agree...I tried photo shopping it a little bit and could not make colors match MH370 (darker blue)
    MH370: ATSB Says New Reunion Debris 'Unlikely' From Missing Jet - NBC News
     
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    The colour looks like it could feasibly be 1987 South African Airways livery after a few years of fading.

    [​IMG]

    That plane went down in the Indian Ocean too, so it wouldn't be that surprising if a piece of it washed up on the beach in Mozambique, even after 20 years.

    South African Airways Flight 295 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Why is ‘MH370 debris’ still in Malaysia and not on its way to Australia?

    Malaysia seems to be going too slowly on delivering the Mozambique discoveries to Australia for official analysis. US science writer Jeff Wise has quipped: "Possibly the first time in history that part of an aircraft has been hijacked twice."

    Jeff Wise has also questioned the authenticity of the Mozambique pieces due to lack of marine life on them, but some (including me) feel he has made mistakes before on his MH370 theories, so I think we need to wait for official word from Australia's ATSB. For all I know the parts could have biocide properties for some reason. Although I can say my salt water aquarium poops up everything in it with algae within a few months.

    (I am thinking all that plastic waste floating in the high seas is relatviely free of algae)
     
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    By my count 7th suspected piece of MH370 has been found and it is a very important finding. It is the bulkhead panel from inside the plane, suggesting a hard crash vs. pilot-controlled "soft" landing. The prior pieces were outter skin and wings may come off in air during a steep dive.

    MH370 debris: Suspected business class cabin fragment found on Rodrigues Island, Mauritius

    [​IMG]

    We now have
    1. Flapperon
    2. No step panel
    3. Wing part #EB
    4. Blue painted piece from Reunion Isl. (probably not MH370)
    5. Rolls Royce Logo
    6. New find - no description yet
    7. Bulkhead piece
     
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    For now I am sticking to my part count above.
    One or two pieces found were apparently not widely reported (my Part #6).
    • Several valid theories for the relative lack of sea-life on some pieces, including differing ocean pathways and possible sand scrubbing of pieces laying around on shore for some months
    • Although one internal piece has been found, it is not yet entirely proof of high energy crash. Some feel a hard ditching might flop the plane over and break the plane in one place where the bulkhead piece is located
    • Jeff Wise is saying the pieces were planted by someone who has the plane (but I do not agree)
     
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    i have nothing to add, but i am following your thread with interest.:)
     
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    dup
     
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    Pre-discovery photo of Rolls Royce part shows lots of "smelly" barnacles, so this explains that exposed to wave action on the shores, the barnalces fall off and the pieces eventually appear cleaner. This debunks the theory that the pieces were planted. There was a theory (now debunked) by Jeff Wise that the pieces found were too clean to be in the ocean 2 years.
    [​IMG]
     
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    #37 wjtracy, May 26, 2016
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    has it really been 2 years?(n)
     
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    Yep over 2 years...
    Australia is going to suspend funding search in August...unclear if China or anyone will step up
     
    #39 wjtracy, May 26, 2016
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    seems like yesterday, no wonder i'm getting so old.
     
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