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2006 prius Red triangle, loss of power

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by poningru, May 27, 2016.

  1. poningru

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    Hello
    Having some issues with my used prius hopefully someone can help.
    Background:
    Purchased a used 2006 prius with ~180K miles on it from south bay a few months ago. At the time of purchase the guy warned us that it 'ate' motor oil.
    Symptoms and actions taken:
    After 2 months of driving without issues (driven couple of hundred miles), on an uphill road the engine overheats and throws the red triangle, vsc and check engine lights on the dash, along with loss of power. After cool down I check oil level and sure enough it is low, since this is on top of a hill we essentially coast all the way back home without any real issues. Once home I top up the oil. I do a test drive around the block without issues (no loss of power) though the check engine/red triangle/vsc lights are still on. But after I take it for a longer drive the loss of power returns.
    Since my bluetooth obd2 connector wasnt working I borrow one from my friend and try to get a read. Unfortunately the thing puts out no obd2 error codes. Living in the bay area I apparently cant just take it to an autozone, to get code readings. I take it to meineke auto repair, they too are unable to get an obd2 read, and want to charge me $100 for a full reading, which I decline.
    I do a few diagnostics steps including 'resetting' the computer by leaving it off of the 12v battery for a few mins, this clears the red triangle et al on restart. I do a test drive, at first everything is working just fine, but after about 10 mins or so of driving the red triangle/check engine/vsc lights returns, along with loss of power. (under ~20 mph only, cant go uphill)
    Take it to a mechanic and they come back with code: "APOA92. Trans Axel issue - MG1 performance is off. Measured torque is different than executed torque, enough to be a problem. 95% sure it is the transmission." (My partner got this over the phone from the mechanic, and emailed it to me). They are quoting around $5000 for a transmission installation parts & labor.
    I stupidly still havent checked the 12v battery.
    Questions:
    Do you believe this is a tranny issue? Any point in me trying to double check the 12v battery? Should I try to get a second opinion from somewhere?
    Any other questions or comments?
    Thanks
     
  2. bisco

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    it's not a 12v issue, but that should always be checked. if it's eating oil, why not through a low mile salvage engine/tranny in? cheap, and tranny labor is included.

    you have the best garage in the country, luscious.
     
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    bisco, do you know what the cost of something like that would be?
     
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    i have seen 2k parts and labor posted here a few times.
     
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    ooph reluctant to spend something like that on this used car, considering I dont know what other issues might prop up later on. I was hoping it would be something like the trans fluid pump, but if the consensus is that the whole trans needs replacement... I'm not sure that's worth it.
    Thanks bisco.
     
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    I think I can get you a transmission and engine included for about $1,500
     
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    I suppose I'm trying to get more of an assessment on whether this transmission replacement is needed. Does that code show the need for a transmission replacement? What other possibilities are there? What about he transmission fluid pump?
     
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    you really need a toyota specific reader. mini vci or dealer. or luscious garage.
     
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    This does sound like a significant issue, one that will cost over $1000.

    I'm just puzzled how an engine problem went to a transmission problem.

    But with 180k miles and most likely poor maintenance history, anything can happen. Try selling it for $1000 as is
     
  10. dolj

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    You say the engine overheats and then you say you checked the oil level. You never have said that you checked the engine coolant level, more specifically in the radiator as opposed to the engine coolant overflow reservoir. If the coolant in the radiator is low, top it up and use only Toyota Super Long Life Coolant (SLLC) available from any Toyota dealer. Check also the overflow reservoir and top up to the full mark too, if required.

    While you're at it, how does the coolant level look in the inverter coolant reservoir? Top that up, also with SLLC, if that is low.

    In regards the whether you need to replace the transmission, or more correctly the transaxle, and does the code P0A92 mean you need to to replace the transaxle, well yes, the P0A92 does point to a transaxle problem, specifically "Hybrid Generator Performance".

    Here's the problem, the transaxle was never designed to be opened up and worked on, and as they are generally reliable they are relatively cheap to buy second-hand. So invariably, when anything goes wrong with the transaxle, the quickest and cheapest option is usually to pick up a used transaxle and swap out the bad one.

    Your mechanic's quote of $5000 does seem a little on the steep side, though.

    Hope the helps.
     
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