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Prius Complete Shutdown (Almost)

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  1. longtimetoyota917

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    Hi everybody, hopefully you can help/direct me to a place that can help me. My mechanic does not know Prius’ well and the only Prius mechanic I’ve been able to get a hold of here that has been somewhat straightforward with me is not available and is a bit of a distance away. I actually got the car from my ex's brother and he is currently out of the country with his family. I was driving it the other day when a bunch of light codes came on (pretty much every code on the dashboard as well as the little car with red exclamation through it on the navigation/LCD screen in the upper left hand corner), i left the car in park then in the morning the car wouldn’t go into drive/reverse mode, only Park or Neutral. Im very worried it is either the hybrid battery or transmission since the 12V battery has recently been replaced, the second mechanic i spoke to told me not to worry because it sounds like the car needs a jump start but i am wondering how that is possible since that battery is new/no lights have been left on to drain it, and all the other electronics (radio, dashboard lights,etc) in the car function as it should when turning the car. I don’t necessarily want to necessarily call AAA to jumpstart my car if the battery is okay and damage it, or tow my car from mechanic to mechanic trying to figure it out until then maybe you guys can help me out with a possible miracle or if anyone has seen something like this before haha.

    I have attached a picture of all of the lights (except the navigation light [car with red exclamation point through it) Thank you everyone.
     

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    welcome! how many miles? how far are you from a toyota dealer?

    are you able to look under the hood, open the inverter coolant reservoir, and see if there is swirling movement of the fluid while the car is on?
     
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    A low 12V battery will cause a lot of random problems. I notice one of the indicating lights is the TPMS light which has nothing to do with your symptoms.

    I would try a jumpstart and then charge the 12V battery. That would be an inexpensive first step before looking in to more expensive troubleshooting.
     
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    This most likely not your 12v battery as all the lights came on while you were driving. A bad 12v battery will be bad before you start the car.

    What part of CA are you in? How many miles on your car?

    With a 2008, I don't think it can be your HV battery just yet. More likely problems would be the electric water pump or the ABS actuator pump. Both items have either a recall or extended warranty. But you would need to have it checked to know the exact problem.
     
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    You just need to get it to a competent Hybrid Technician.
    When nearly every single light on the dash comes on?
    It could be anything.
    I suspect you need codes read.

    Do you actually own the vehicle? Or is it your Ex's Brothers?
     
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    Wow, hey guys I was hoping for one reply but lets me try and take note and respond to all of this, first thank you all so much. So in covering everything:
    - the car has about 185k miles on it, I will test the battery, and I will check the coolant reservoir however the car engine does not turn on so I do not know if the coolant will be swirling.
    - I am located here in Los Angeles in Los Feliz CA, I will have the electric water pump & ABS actuator pump checked. And the HV Battery possibly checked.
    - I will also get all the codes read when I go to do all of this, and yes I own this car.

    I will find someone local here on Yelp and get this all taken care of at once and be back with an update, hopefully can avoid the Toyota dealer because I have heard its both costly and unreliable. I have a friend who's a mechanic who can read the codes but I don't think they can check into everything else you guys have mentioned but I will ask. Thank you guys so much It may take me a week or so to do this and check in with a full update but I definitely appreciate and am grateful for all the input. Are there any other recommendations to check when getting the car towed in for the full run down?
     
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    I'm not too far from you, if you can't find anyone, I may be able to help you read those trouble codes. Save you the cost in getting a dealer diagnostic
     
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    Hey guys I don't know if this is good news or not but I was able to run a 12v self test yesterday (
    ) and these were the readings (pictures attached) were both less than 12v, first was 11.9 then when the car was on read at 11.7. I don't see how this is possible because the 12v was literally just changed a few weeks ago and was driving fine (still any easier fix than anything else everyone has mentioned, so I won't complain if this fixes it) So would the next step to be jump the 12v and see if it runs? (Anyone have any tips? I have never done this before)
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    And I wanted to say THANK YOU everyone, you are all so kind I am so grateful also oops i didn't mean for the video to attach, sorry about that.
     
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    It's not your battery that's preventing the car from starting. 11.9v (it's actually more than this if you read it from the battery posts) is more than enough to get it going. The function you're using requires a load on the battery, that reading is lower than it should be.

    If you simply want to start the car, you can simply reset the car. Disconnect the 12v negative terminal for a minute and reconnect. The car should restart. However after you shutdown and it won't start again......then that would be a bigger issue. Some type of HV leak that is preventing it from restarting more than once.
     
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    Ok, thank you for the quick response JC, also the offer to meet and read the codes- that is very nice of you! I actually had a friend who offered to come read the codes here for me so I was still waiting to do that. If I try doing what you suggested with reconnecting the battery will that stop me from reading the codes later in anyway? Atleast the battery is more than likely good! :-D
     
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    Once you reset the battery, the codes will be cleared. But any faults in the system will get redetected again. Since the car is not starting, that would be a good place to start, just to clear it and see if it comes back. If it comes back, then you'll know it's not a glitch and an actual problem is there.
     
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    Ok, hopefully the car will run with the codes reset and it won't be sitting there with its current problems without any error codes lol. I will go ahead and get this done and give you guys an update. Thank you again everyone, and JC specifically as well, Im very relieved to be ruling things out, everyone has been so helpful already.!
     
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    I was googling to see if theres a way to do it without any tools. I will try the 10 mm socket with extender, hopefully it doesn't spark or i don't lose the nut/bolt. First timer here (really thought i was onto something with that 12v diagnostic) Lol
     
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    You don't need tools, you can just disconnect the battery connectors. You can alternatively use a 10mm and disconnect the ground bolt to the body of the car. That may give a tiny little spark, but that would be the way to do it.
     
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    Ok guys heres an update: I took JC's advise (thank you): the codes reset and I was able to drive the car again (yay!), then I drove to the gas station to put gas (and the red triangle came on) and when I went to turn back on the car and all the codes were back up and it reverted back to its old problem (not being able to shift out of park or neutral). I went ahead and disconnected the terminals and reconnected them again and drove home and now I am here writing this message. So in addition to getting those codes read should I maybe ill look into take the car to a battery specialist now? Thank you guys for all the help I recently got this car and didn't expect to encounter all of these problems, the 12v battery reset is a quick fix that seems pretty promising but I don't know how long or if I should even be counting on that, l really hope to get it up and running again.
     
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    This can be a complicated problem, as a single start leads to a HV leak. This could be a problem in your battery, transaxle, AC.......

    You can see if it's in the battery by resetting the car. Then putting the car into accessory mode (press power button twice, no foot on brake). If the fault is picked up (triangle) in accessory mode, it points the problem to your hv battery......which is the easiest fix of all the possible fixes for this error.
     
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    try charging your 12 volt.
     
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    Ok I don't know if I did this correctly: I resetted [disconnected (waited a minuted) and reconnected 12v battery] pressed the start button twice no footbreak and let it sit for about 30 seconds (only orange lights were on, no red triangle). Pressed the footbreak and start button (car started) and all of the warning lights were off. I took a drive halfway down the block and back and parked, no warning lights. So should I avoid starting my car unless to diagnose this problem to prevent further damage to the HV battery?
     
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    I forgot to say, you need to leave it on for about 2 minutes. 30 seconds probably isn't enough