Ottonavi HU: How to customize (a bit) the UI

Hello Mert,
OK thanks; I got the file.
I will take a look later and let you know.

 

Hello Mert,
your unit is using the UI shell version 4.00.7.
There is a screen for the parking sensor but there are no options in the UI for changing the sounds.
Also, the sounds don't seem to be stored in the Windows folders so they are either generated by the hardware or by the firmware.
That's all I could find.

 

Well the package you uploaded contains only the App and I9 folder.
May be the sounds are stored inside the other folders like StaticStore or NandFlash folders.
Take a look and let us know.

 

Hi Manol,
Most probably, if EQ is not showing up it's because your radio unit hardware does not support the EQ function.
This is not software related; it's the radio chip that does the EQ work.
To be sure, find the appropriate MCUupdate program for your unit and check what the hardware report is reporting for the radio chip.
If it's a TEF6624 chip then it does not support EQ.

 

Would be better to ask your vendor for the one specifically made for your car (is it a KIA?).

You can also try china-rns.com; they have a good collection of firmwares but I think it's mostly for european cars.

Last resort, you can also try one the latest MCU update tools; it should be able to run on your unit but the hardware report might not be always reliable.
If you decide to try a *not-your-brand* MCUUpdate tool, be careful not to set/write or update anything; that might brick your unit.

 

Hello Bornwilder,

yes, this radio chip should be capable of doing the graphic equalizer function (Audio is integrated in this chip)
So if you don't see EQ, there's a chance that your MCU version could be updated.

1) Check with your Roadrover/Car vendor if they have a MCU firmware and/or shell update.
2) If not, check with the fine German folks at china-rns.com (ask Strados); they might have a better version for you.
3) You can also check at kiatech.com (USA); but it is not free anymore I think...

Good luck!

 

Hi Mottif,
the skin UI elements (buttons, scroll bar, etc...) describe BOTH the widget appearance AND its function.
So it is certainly possible to have different visuals and behaviors across skins.
Is it fixable in your case?
Depends on your 2 skins... Maybe they used 2 different set of widgets.
Or may be they were not meant to be used or are not well supported with shell 2.95.5.

To know for sure, you need to send us the 2 skins so we can take a look at the widgets.
If you do, please post them here because that might be of interest to others.

 

Hi Mottif,

1) I don't use the iPod interface so I cannot say for sure if other UI versions would work better.
(plus there are so many other skins and shells out there; that would take a while to test them all...)

2) In theory, only the MCU firmware is specific to a car model.
Manager.exe (and the skins) are *somewhat* generic; they can work in pretty much every Roadrover unit but sometimes they do not.
That is because whenever Roadrover add a new specific car hardware functions (like TPMS, climate, etc), they sometimes hardcode a new UI function inside manager.exe as well. So the skin now depends on manager.exe which itself depends on MCU.
(This is bad design of course and that's why manager.exe can sometimes choked on certain skins. But that's another story...)

So your best bet for now is to try some newer skins along with new shells in the hope that the iPod UI will behave better.
In the mean time, I will take a look at your 2 skins and let you know what I find.

 

Hi MottiF,

I looked at the 2 skins and here's what I found.
Surprisingly, in each skin, there are 2 iPod screens; each one is having its own behaviour as you described.
The first skin uses the first screen and the second skin the second screen.
(They probably had to create a second one to accommodate playing iPod videos)
These behaviours (fixed list and wheel controlled) are hard-coded in the UI 2.95.5. manager.exe.
Bad design (or unfinished work) as I said. Hacking manager.exe is possible but that would require a lot of work.

Now, apparently the latest UI shells (>3.0.0) have some enhanced iPod screens so may be that would fix the problem for you.
The only way to find out is for you to install a new shell and test a new skin version to see if it works.
(You should be able normally to revert all this if it is not working to your taste; BUT DO THIS CAREFULLY)
If it is working fine then we can either import the old skins and adapt them (that should be feasible).
Or we can use the new skins and change them.

The thing to remember is that the behaviour you want can only be provided by a new shell (manager.exe).

You can also check with our German friends at china-rns.com; they have a huge collection of skins and tools.

 

Hi MottiF,
yes, I9, I10 are for different hardware and software versions all together.
Some I10 parts might work on I9 but it's safer to stick with the version you have. At least for now.
You probably have an I9 version; double check if you have a \StaticStore\I9\Skins in the unit.

Yes; the procedure explained in the top page should work.
Once you find a manager.exe+skin combination that works for you then you can install it in the unit.
Do not forget to do a backup of your unit folders in case something goes wrong!

Let us know.

 

Thanks for reporting the info MottiF.
Not much we could do here then. Sorry.

 

Hi Mottif,
very peculiar problem...

I would be very surprised if it has to do with the skin tests.
(You can always check the config.ini file in the I9 folder to see if there are any parking sensors values in there.)

First, it seems to be intermittent; you had the problem before even with a different HU.
Second, it was working properly with the last HU even AFTER you tested the skins; then it sopped after restarting the car.

This points to a parking sensor hardware failure; very common with those (cheap) devices.
The parking sensors usually have their own speakers for beeps; they usually can be found at the rear or on the sides of the car.
I would first double check which model you have and test the speaker if any. Check also the wiring obviously.
Or may be the parking sensor controller box is defective for sound.

Let us know.