2010 Prius - battery specs

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    john1701a New Member

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    I'm currently working on the new Info-Sheet and User-Guide for the 2010 Prius. Filling out the generation matrix comparing the Original, Classic, and Iconic models has left 3 unanswered questions:

    • Battery-Pack Energy (W/kg)
    • Battery-Pack Voltage
    • Battery-Pack Weight (lbs)
    Anyone have that detail available for the 2010 model?

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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Same specs as the Gen II. It uses the same battery, only repackaged in a modular format.

    Tom
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    HTMLSpinnr Gen III Forums Moderator

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    Repackaging may affect overall weight, but the energy/voltage has not changed.
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    ^ With what these guys said John. But when I go to the Chicago event I'll recheck with the Toyota people.

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    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    If this is true, then I am wondering why Toyota-provided info shows different traction battery power specs for 2009 vs. 2010:

    2009: 28 hp
    Toyota Prius - 2009 Performance & Specifications

    2010: 36 hp, per the 2009 NAIAS Media Information DVD jacket that we received in Detroit.

    I had assumed that they are getting more power out of the battery by further reducing internal resistance.
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    HTMLSpinnr Gen III Forums Moderator

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    They may have increased the overall output current of the battery pack. I'd be worried about longevity as a result though if the module itself isn't changed.
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    I think you don't have to be worried about it, but Toyota warranty division does. :)

    Anyway, Panasonic EV Energy supplies a Metal Case Module too since 2005 for Highlander/RX400h. It is 9.6V module, but site says 6cell 7.2V module is possible.
    Metal Case Prismatic Module | Panasonic EV Energy Co., Ltd.
    The basic specifications are same as plastic one, but I believe the metal one is stronger in heat stress than plastic.
    Camry Hybrid has 244.8V pack, which means it uses 34 7.2V modules.
    I believe TCH uses metal module since it introduced after THH/RX400h.

    Also, didn't we hear from Chief Engineer the cooling function on the 2010 Prius battery pack was improved?
    I believe the new battery pack will be more powerful and reliable than the current even the basic specification numbers are same.

    Ken@Japan
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    bwilson4web 03 and 10 Prius

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    Heat is the enemy and improved cooling and temperature management is the key.

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    Given where I live, I still worry. I'm glad my '04's made it to 110,000 miles on the original pack w/ light (judicious) usage of EV. I'm not as worried about making to 100,000 warranty, but the "lifetime" padding may have gotten much shorter, and I worry that we could realistically see 120,000-150,000 HV battery pack replacements as a norm. I'd hate to think Toyota built that into the long-term income strategy of the car.
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    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    This is reasonable in hot areas like NV and AZ. I believe that 150K miles is the auto industry definition for end-of-life, so any miles logged beyond that is gravy.

    Many posters like to point to high-odometer Prius taxis as evidence that the hybrid system is robust. An equally important test will be to see how many years the battery can last (regardless of odometer reading), cycling through periods of alternating hot and cold weather.
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    HTMLSpinnr Gen III Forums Moderator

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    Part of me wants to keep the 2002 right up to the 8 yr battery warranty JUST to find that out. Actually, by trading/selling it for the 2010, I'm ALMOST doing that (bought in Nov 2001). It will have < 60k miles when we relinquish it.
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    "And here’s an interesting tidbit for you: During its development, the new 2010 Prius was designed and engineered to package either the lithium-ion battery pack with plug-in capability, or the nickel-metal hydride battery for the conventional gas-electric system."

    TOYOTA OPEN ROAD BLOG: Irv's Sheet: Toyota Steps Up the Technological Pace

    John, will this change your task much? Do you have any better idea what will be available by the end of the year?
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    But how much does it weigh?
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