2012 Camry hybrid specs detailed 43mpg city!

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  1. hampdenwireless

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    Toyota Announces Pricing for All-New 2012 Camry and Camry Hybrid -- TORRANCE, Calif., Aug. 23, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

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    The Camry Hybrid model is also reinvented for 2012, utilizing a highly revised Hybrid Synergy Drive powertrain that includes a new 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine, which produces a combined 200 horsepower and offers better MPG, all while featuring a significantly lower MSRP than its predecessor.
    The Camry Hybrid LE not only delivers the best MPG of any mid-size sedan, achieving manufacturer-estimated 43 city/39 mpg hwy/41mpg combined, but it will also carry a MSRP of $25,900, an impressive decrease of $1,150 compared to the 2011 model. The premium Camry Hybrid XLE model features a MSRP of $27,400, a decrease of $800 compared to the previous model with upgrade package.
    The new Camry models with four-cylinder and V6 engines will begin reaching Toyota dealers in October; Camry Hybrid models will arrive in November. The MSRPs for the 2012 Camry do not include the delivery, processing and handling (DPH) fee. The DPH for the Camry is $760. The DPH fee for vehicles distributed by Southeast Toyota (SET) and Gulf States Toyota (GST) may vary."
     
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    Always figured they'd close the gap with the Fusion. Mildly impressed with the Camry highway over the Fusion

    Now, should we start a pool for the Prius wagon vs. C-max hybrid mileage?
     
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    Wow, those are impressive numbers. How did they do it ?
     
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    CD of hybrid is 0.27.. which brings the question why Prius is only 0.26 despite the shape??
     
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    They have some advanced features such as tiny finlets in the rear lights that help smooth airflow. I am also surprised by .27, it just does not look that different then the previous generation.
     
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    They are gunning for the Fusion and the Sonata hybrids. Not only did they surpass them, but they dropped the price! They should sell well!
     
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    I predict the Camry Hybrids will sell really well. With this price, I predict it will make up a huge chunk of all Camrys sold - provided the resources to produce HSDs can keep up.
     
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    yeah they priced it right on spot btw 4cyl and V6

    LE
    2.5L L4 (2AR) / 6AT $22,500
    HYBRID LE 2.5L L4 (2AR) HV / ECVT$25,900
    SE 3.5L V6 (2GR) / 6AT $26,640

    XLE
    2.5L L4 (2AR) / 6AT $24,725
    HYBRID XLE 2.5L L4 (2AR) HV / ECVT $27,400
    XLE 3.5L V6 (2GR) / 6AT $29,845

     
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    This Gen 7 TCH has the same improvements as the Gen 3 Prius in terms of the electric and electronic components. In addition this new Gen 7 Camry is lighter overall than the outgoing one..weight is death on fuel usage.

    But IMO the biggest advancement for this Camry is the use of the most current ICE technology. To wit...the 2.4L ICE in the last TCH was based on 1990's technology that was first debuted in 1998. The current TCH uses the new 2.5L ICE first debuted in 2009 which is worlds better than the older version.

    For confirmation, IMO...the reason that the FFH jumped over the previous Camry in terms of fuel usage was that Ford used it's newest 2.5L ICE as the initial engine in the first FFH. Now TM has leap-frogged over FMC using its best engine to date.

    It's all good for everyone here.
     
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    Longer cars are easier to make more aerodynamic than shorter cars. I recall some early Lexus sedans had impressively low Cds.

    The Camry is 14" longer and 1" shorter than the Prius...
     
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    LS has 0.26
     
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    That's the same number as the previous TCH and Camry SE (standard models had 0.28)


    • new 2.5 litre engine 2AR-FXE (this is a really fuel efficient engine). As deadphish said, the 2.4 litre 2AZ engine is old
    • beltless engine (electric water pump, A/C compressor)
    • exhaust heat recovery system
    • cooled exhaust gas recirculation system
    • 200lbs lighter (that's a biggie!)
    • More torque in the new engine
    • Battery was repackaged
    • Smaller inverter I believe

    Now it needs direct injection and dual VVT-i (only the standard gas Camry has dual VVT-i. I believe the exhaust timing is not variable on the TCH)

    and 0.25 with air suspension.
     
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    I'm sorry, but both Ford and Toyota have now totally confused me. I thought Ford was simply lying, but now Toyota is too. Is the Prius not a "mid-sized" car? Or is it a sub-mid-sized car?
    The Prius beats both the Fusion hybrid and the new Camry hybrid in mileage.
     
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    Both Camry and Prius G3 (not G2) are mid-sized "car" by passenger volume, but if you want to be prickly, Prius is a mid-size "hatchback" and Camry is a mid-sized "sedan".

     
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    Mid-sized sedan is the weasel phrase.

    I think it's fair to separate them. Although the Prius is mid-sized by standards it's not much more spacious for driver and passengers than our Civic, which is one of the larger compacts.
     
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    The Gen2 is also midsize. My sticker even said sedan on it.

    We like organizing and classifying things. Take the species naming system. It's highly organized with multiple levels of organizing names, from kingdom down the specie and genus. You inform Fluffy of this and that he is a Felis catus(we even have font protocols for it), and his response, "That's nice. Listen, I'll out later than usual. There's this bobcat I'm trying to hit, and she's in heat." In addition to the lifeforms flaunting our rules, there are constantly arguments over what a critter should be called and where it should go in the tree amongst ourselves.

    Car segments are the same, but even more mutable (We don't have peer reviewed journals devoted to classifying them). The EPA has one set, which is the only set with enforcement to it, but it does change. Retailers and reviewers have another, and they aren't beholden to the others on which segment a car goes.

    So the Prius is a sedan by the EPA, I think. A reviewer or dealer may go along with that. More likely they'll call it a hatchback, which, along with sedan, aren't EPA segment terms. I just learned something new.
     
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    OK, just what I thought, so they're both lairs. Figures lie and lairs figure.

    Prius is the ONLY car with the "best mileage in the mid-sized class", period!

    In fact, until the Prius C comes out next year, it has the best mileage of -any- production car afaik. And after the C comes out the "Prius" will still rule. ;)

    If you want to object, just check out the US and Canadian mileage sites. Prius is and has been on top for a long time. And will remain there until some other car company gets serious about competing. And I doubt they will.