90 mpg from a conventional (Euro) Toyota Aygo

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Begreen, May 5, 2006.

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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Begreen, May 5, 2006.

  1. nerfer
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Begreen @ May 5 2006, 10:45 AM) [snapback]250236[/snapback]</div>
    Keep in mind this is an article from UK, so that would be using British gallons. I believe the U.S. equivalent is 66 mpg, and their extra-urban (highway) tests are as accurate as our EPA. Still good mileage.
  2. eak354
    why don't they offer that car here? that's great mileage! much better than the yaris...
  3. Tideland Prius
    Cause a 1.0 litre engine won't cut it. Smart aside, it seems the smallest engine here is a 1.5 litre which in Europe is considered big cause the superminis that have 1.5 litre engines are considered sport models!
  4. clett
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nerfer @ May 5 2006, 03:41 PM) [snapback]250418[/snapback]</div>
    Divide by 1.2 to get US mpg from UK mpg.

    90 mpg UK = 75 mpg US.
  5. ServoScanMan
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eak354 @ May 6 2006, 11:44 PM) [snapback]250984[/snapback]</div>
    Excellent question! Before I bought my Prius I was researching Toyota cars. They make a 1.4L turbo Diesel Yaris for sale in Europe that gets 60mpg. I wrote Toyota a couple of emails asking them about the car only to be told it would not be for sale in the USA.
  6. molgrips
    It's VERY small.... The 'combined' figure is something like 60 ish mpg, which is good still. Interesting to note that with official figures it emits MORE CO2 than the Prius, even though it's really really tiny, and slower.

    If I ever get a second car though...
  7. Tideland Prius
    It's smaller than a Yaris and is built in conjunction with Peugeot and Citroen.
  8. sprett
    Don´t bother about the Aygo. It´s the worst car I have ever driven. Actually I wouldn´t even call it a car, It´s more like a..... tumble drier on wheels. The only reason for Toyota to build this thing is to get young people to buy a, supposedly, high quality car. That doesn´t fool me, I rather keep my 17 year old Mitsubishi as my "pigcar".
  9. molgrips
    Does your 17 year-old mitsubishi do up to 83mpg though? That's the point. Yes it's tiny, but is it any worse than other super super-minis? Peugot 107, Citroen C1, Smart ForTwo, that tiny Suzuki thing, VW Lupo?
  10. Tideland Prius
    I thought the 107 and C1 are the same as the Aygo.
  11. Smooth Operator
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(clett @ May 8 2006, 02:36 AM) [snapback]251372[/snapback]</div>
    Not to be picky, but I think the correct formula is to divide by 1.25.

    An Imperial pint is 20 ounces. An American pint is 16 ounces.

    20 ounces divided by 1.2 = 16.66 ounces.

    20 ounces divided by 1.25 = 16 ounces.

    So 90 mpg (Imperial) would be 90 divided by 1.25 or 72 mpg (American).
  12. Betelgeuse
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Smooth Operator @ Jul 23 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]291015[/snapback]</div>
    Not to be futher picky, but everywhere I read, including the authority (Google) say:

    1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095042 US gallons

    and

    1 Imperial pint = 1.20095042 US pint

    EDIT: Here's where the confusion comes from, I think: 1 Imperial fluid ounce = 0.960760333 US fluid ounces
  13. kevinwhite
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Smooth Operator @ Jul 23 2006, 10:36 AM) [snapback]291015[/snapback]</div>
    To be doubly picky the figure is 1.2.

    Google goves the conversion "1 Imperial gallons = 1.20095042 US gallons".

    The reason is that the US fluid ounce weighs more than an ounce! (it is 29.573 milliliters) where the UK fluid ounce is 28.412 milliliters.

    kevin
  14. Betelgeuse
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kevin17 @ Jul 23 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]291022[/snapback]</div>
    While I agree with your basic point, I'll just point out that a fluid ounce is a measure of volume not a measure of weight. Same with milliliters (i.e. they're volume, not weight/mass).

    Geez. This is turning into a semantics discussion, but the original poster's first post was back in early May, so hopefully they're not still paying attention. :rolleyes:
  15. sprett
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(molgrips @ Jul 23 2006, 07:12 PM) [snapback]290995[/snapback]</div>
    Well, I haven´t driven the Peugeot, the Citroen or the Smart but let´s face it, you can´t choose car just by fuel consumption. If the price for lowest possible fuel consumption is driving me insane i guess i´ll pass that one. If I, on the other hand can choose between cars that makes, let´s say, 50 mpg I can find at least half a dozen cars that are way better than the Aygo, for the same money. Those half dozen would include Lupo, and my first choice would be Huyndai Getz. Huyndai has made some huge improvements in quality the last years!
  16. molgrips
    Of cousre. I'm not saying everyone should get one, just saying that it's not quite fair to compare your old junker to a new supermini which is, let's face it, pretty economical both in terms of fuel and cost.

    If you want 50mpg or more, you could always get a Prius ;) The beauty of the car is that you get the same emissions as these tiny cars, but it's full-sized.
  17. spwolf
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sprett @ Jul 24 2006, 05:26 PM) [snapback]291416[/snapback]</div>
    Getz is Yaris sized car actually, not Aygo's... Aygo is actually quite nice car, if built to price. It is also safest car in the class as well.

    I dont mind Aygo, although it is still Toyota-expensive, if you need small car to park in the city, it is quite an nice choice.

    Of course, I would take Yaris over it any time of the day...

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