A Tale of Penetrating Oil and Corrosion

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  1. airportkid

    airportkid Will Fly For Food

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    Needing Mouse Milk to soak the rusted nuts and threads of 3/4" threaded steel rod, I visited our local hardware store which has a reputation for having everything that can't be found at a Home Depot. But even this store had never heard of Mouse Milk, an obscure brand of penetrating oil we aviation technicians swear by.

    Time being of the essence, I bought a can each of two other brands of penetrating oil, one called Rust Buster, and the other an "improved" formulation of Liquid Wrench.

    The Rust Buster can labeling was a dense tabloid of self-promotion, a third of which were detailed illustrated instructions on how to demonstrate its superiority to other brands. Put Rust Buster into a styrofoam cup and the other brands to be compared into other styrofoam cups and watch as within a few seconds the Rust Buster completely dissolves its cup while the other brands sit dormant as water in theirs.

    Later, having exhausted the Rust Buster can saturating the heavily rusted threaded rod ends and nuts, I began applying the Liquid Wrench. The Liquid Wrench can labeling was not as densely flamboyant and the Rust Buster's, but the Liquid Wrench company has at least as active a marketing department as Rust Buster's, because as soon as the Liquid Wrench hit the rusted metal it fizzed and boiled furiously for a few seconds before settling down.

    Here, I thought, is proof positive we have degraded from a culture of intellect to a culture impressed only by gaudy image, that the makers of a product so mundane as penetrating oil felt compelled to add spectacular visual "proof" their product works, one by pretending that dissolving plastic styrofoam equates to dissolving rust, the other by pretending that adding an agent to make the oil "fizz" on contact makes it penetrate faster or more deeply.

    The operative word in all that is "pretend", because that's all that image is, a pretense. That our culture is saturated by this kind of pretense right down to something so prosaic and workaday as penetrating oil is evidence of a deep and disturbing corrosion in our regard for common sense. If we can be impressed and persuaded by such juvenile circus tricks, we're easy pickings for the most ruthless among us. And that can't be healthy.
     
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  2. bredekamp

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    In some countries manufacturers put more detergent in shampoo and soap powder because consumers equate foaminess with quality. This applies to toothpaste as well. People think brightly coloured soda pop tastes better.

    Shampoo doesn't need to foam to clean.
     
  3. Rae Vynn

    Rae Vynn Watch out, I have a degree in BS!

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    WD40 won't work? How about NeverSieze?

    Just a thought...
     
  4. a_gray_prius

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    So did either one end up actually working?
     
  5. airportkid

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    The rod end is 3/4" in diameter; the bolt hex is 1-1/2", in my experience all WD-40 would do with corrosion at this scale is make it wet. We find out whether the oils I did use worked or not tomorrow morning, after a more than 24 hour soak. But whether they do any good here is less important, to me anyway, than the degree of pretense that permeates every niche of our culture right down to deceitful promotion of something as ordinary as penetrating oil.

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    I think it's pretty funny you're having this epiphany brought on by penetrating oil. I mean deceitful promotion is like standard these days - have you seen MTV for like 30 seconds recently? Hell, I meet new people these days and they're trying to be like the people on TV - fake tans, fake boobs, fake people.
     
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    Think of it as a "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" moment. It's the thought that counts. And what's most important is the fact that some people still CAN think, despite television's best efforts to turn our minds to mush. But don't worry, independent thought won't last much longer. Baaaa. ;)
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Let's not be too hard on fake boobs... ;)

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    ahem...
     
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    ya, have you purchased a CAR lately?:cool:
     
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    Kroil works too, but as an Av Tech you probably already knew that.
     
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    3-in-1 has worked for me.

    Or, to get away with the pretense, go old school and use turpentine. Maybe add a light oil of your choice to it. I believe that's all these differing brands are, a solvent to carry a lubricant into the threads.
     
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    Philosophy aside - reluctantly, since that's more interesting and more to the point of the thread - the rusted threads look almost beyond help. Time for an air chisel?
     
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    Actually, I could use a recommendation on penetrating oil. I have a license plate screw that is basically seized and rusted over. Suggestions?
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Cut it off.

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    Good grief you expect a little bit of penetrating oil to fix that?!?!? Hope whatever that is on isn't a critical component. As qbee42 and hyo said cut, chisel or torch it off that part is useless. Then go review you maintenance procedures and schedules that's your problem, not rust or overhyped products.
     
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    Nut splitter will break the nut in half without harming the thread.
     
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    I think by now, the OP has done whatever was decided. Need some followup. (Hint.)
     
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    What thread? Do you mean that spiral shaped rust?

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    pb blaster is another penetrating oil people swear by.




    or a nut splitter as posted above