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    Russell Frost (the better half of the What Drives Us podcast hosting team) recently spent some time in the Prius PHV Plug-In prototype that Toyota has out testing in various parts of the world. In order to convey his thoughts, Russell put together a great video review of the Prius PHV with footage shot in and around his town of Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
    The video is well worth watching, but we'll go ahead and spoil the ending for you: Russell doesn't think the limited EV range justifies moving from the 3rd Generation Prius to a plug-in version. Watch the video to find out why.
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    Thanks for the video, Russell. :)
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    Great editing there Russel and great video. Quite a bit better than the video I did: http://priuschat.com/forums/toyota-...ng-phv-prius-in-around-nyc-2.html#post1192049 LMAO. Hey, I did mention at the beginning how you'd laugh at me for how I mounted my camera.

    I dunno though, for me I'd take a 3rd gen plug in right now, for my driving around here it definitely helps. 14 miles isn't much but it's enough for me. Now anything less and well, that's a different story.

    EV's and PHV's good/bad points depend SO much on SO many different variables of where you live, what their range are etc. At least since it seems each company is taking a different approach there will be a car out there for everyone, even if people have to go with different manufacturers to get what suits them best.
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    Very nicely done. It was a very relaxing enjoyable video.
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    I second that...very pleasant to listen to and watch.

    I hope Toyota will maybe surprise us with a longer battery range :)
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    My wife first said "only 14 EV miles ?" After we talked for a few minutes about her driving habits and calculated how much petrol would be displaced, she was convinced that the difference was quite substantial and the car price would determine whether she would want to buy the car.

    Then I told her to forget about it; we are waiting for the EV Toyota iQ.
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    His ending about the marketing/volume is spot on.

    Sorry, but I agree with him that the difference is NOT enough to drive significant sales enough to make this get anywhere close to mainstream.

    I suspect that Toyota's own estimates of 20K sold, won't be too far off.
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    I had not seen this thread before. He brings up some great points in this video. Thanks!
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    Really not a fan of EVs unless I can drive ~500 miles without stopping (two more gens of technology improvement?) and a charging infrastructure at hotels, etc.. Plug-ins will have a limited market for those who can and are willing. The new plug-in Prius (yes I know it's a hybrid) has a very, very short EV mileage, not interesting.

    Current and improving hybrid technology is the horse to ride for a few years.

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