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Featured Chevy Bolt to have 238 Mile Range

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by ggood, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. bisco

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    that's pretty quick overnight pretty much covers it. pip only puts in about 10 miles in an hour.
     
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    Tesla does as well depending on speed and G-force but majority of the time if you see a Tesla with brake lights, its most likely just the driver lifting off although you can get them to coast like the Prius using the energy meter. There is a Low setting on the Regen that I do not believe illuminates the brake lights.
     
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    Looks like it's time to upgrade my EVSE to 32amp level....:)

    The Volt has been flawless since 2014, but... on to the Bolt!

    FWIW- Here's what the Volt has been doing since March 2014 (when I traded in the PIP):
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    The Bolt is two size classes smaller than a Prius. Well, I'd say more like one and half. A more sloped hatch like the Prius has will give a bigger hole to get things in, but requires more planning to not have the cargo interfere with its closing.

    It doesn't have the removable floor to form an under storage area like my Sonic. Wonder if that's how they will ship?
     
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    From the bolt's webpage:

    AVAILABLE HIDDEN STORAGE COMPARTMENT

    Provides additional space when you need it while keeping your cargo organized, easily accessible and neatly stowed away
     
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    The electrons go stale after ~30 days. Use e-Stabil or e-Foam...
     
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    Anyone seen spec's yet for its battery stat's? (buffer % above & below usable partition) Similarly - its traction pack warranty? How is it going to work - will it be capacity loss percentage over some amount of given years/miles? Haven't yet found anything on that element. Thinking back to the Volt & Leaf racing to market ... hindsight reveals both vehicles might have been made much better - had they simply both taken more time to design & test their product. Certainly Tesla takes a lot of crap for being late to the show with their timely promises to deliver. But you rush things to the show, & manufacturers risk creating their own personal type of Challenger disaster. Just saying, I'd hate to see GM create bad will that might get avoided via more product/marketing testing. Reading in the LA Times, it just corroborated my concern, that the Bolt appears kind of small & looks underwhelming - compared to, & with the model 3 release following close behind. Yes it's pretty remarkable that GM has put this car out at all with its questionable ev history (pulling the EV1 in the face of angry fans - a PR nightmare) & i hope it does well. That said, it's too bad they made it look almost as 'blah' as our Leaf. If anything, the Leaf taught our family to hold off 'buying the very 1st (our VIN is 000659) iteration despite wanting to support EV development. I suppose it's way too late for GM to whip up a new body style. Maybe the style relates to low drag? If cars looking like Porsche & Tesla proved anything, it's that a low CD can look very sleek. We definitely are a visual Society. When it comes to building a great car vs looks - Ford Edsel comes to mind. Better to strike a balance.
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    i thought volt one was problem free?
     
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    Didn't mean to imply that it was horrible but Rev II has a bigger ICE for a good reason. Think Prius' ICE size increase & overall efficiency.
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    The Bolt is using the Trax platform. Any subcompact class car or SUV is going to look small and underwhelming when comparing it to a midsize and larger one. Physical size isn't a viable metric on reliability and performance. Besides, the small SUV/crossover is the growing segment now. The Spark EV got high marks in reviews, and that is where the Bolt is coming from.
     
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    interesting - the differences/Dynamics/(dis)advantages of building a purpose-driven Bev where the car is built around the traction pack vs fitting a traction pack into an existing ice chassis.
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    Will it really? The VW will get a better range than Tesla. Tesla has the supercharger network, it's already attracted the Toyota Prius buyers. There are more economical cars out there than the Prius so there must be something more to it. I'd wager it's the environment and/or the technology. The Chevvy costs more and doesn't look all that appealing,even inside (imo). The Prius is an image which divides people, but most people will tell you that the interior is pretty nice. The only real upside it seems to have is that it has more range.

    The Nissan Leaf in 2018 is a potential contender too, but of course this is available to buy sooner.

    Also, the Chevvy is no competitor at all for Tesla in Europe, mainly because Chevrolet pulled out entirely
     
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    Well...so long as they don't go mouldy
     
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    Aside from the 'going stale' or 'moldy' kidding - all lithium traction packs have some degree of parasitic loss. It happens mostly at full SOC. But even where there's a low SOC, if the vehicle has some kind of web based interface (& afaik, they all do, just so you can remotely warm or cool the cabin or check your SOC) there'll be a small degree of loss. Nothing to write home about.
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    Yes, hence the use of a stabilizer.
     
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    In IT, a SOC often means a "Security Operations Centre" :D
     
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    In batteries, it's "State of Charge"
     
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    Ahh didn't know that. I thought that this was another jokey post!
     
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    The Bolt isn't an ICE converted to a BEV. Modern car platforms have a degree of modularity to them to allow some size changes and to be able to make a sedan, hatchback, and crossover from it. From the few images I've seen, the ICE belly of the platform is replaced with one to hold the battery for the Bolt. Much like what Tesla does, though the pack isn't a flat skateboard.

    All batteries self discharge. Some chemistries do so faster than others. They don't even have to have to be installed in something. It's why alkalines got best by dates, and were once stored in the fridge by the frugal.