Do you think Toyota may offer the Prius C with a stick?

ZERO

Read more about the drivetrain and you will see that the CVT operation is integral to the whole hybrid operation.

Honda already did that they call it a CRZ.

 

Sorry but I think there is no chance. The CVT is at the heart of the Toyota hybrid system.

 

Yep. OP should look at Toyota Prius - Power Split Device and read Graham's Toyota Prius, specifically Understanding the Prius to understand the power split device.

 

Yes, absolutely. And, they could come up with simulated shift points too. Some other cars w/conventional automatics and belt/cone style CVTs have this.

It's just that a manual is basically impossible w/Toyota's power split device and would make no sense.

Honda hybrids w/manual transmissions are possible since their IMA system uses a single motor/generator sandwiched between the engine and transmission and is NOTHING like Hybrid Synergy Drive.

 

Paddle-shifters on a Toyota hybrid will only be found on the Japanese CT200h F sport.

 

Don't sweat it. That's the way some answer questions. No one should be offended by the questions or the answers. Same on just about any online forum.

 

They could throw in a walking stick for the Senior drivers!
Paddle shifters on a Prius, it really is April FOOLS Day!
That would just give Jeremy Clarkson something else to whine about on Top Gear.
So when does the new season of TG start anyway. JC may be pompous, but I love the show. The American Version is like a stripped down F1, It may have the same name, it just goes nowhere for me!

 

Seriously then, NO. You are never going to out think the CVT & computer that was designed to optimize the MPG of the car....

 

I could use one...

 

Yeah, April fools joke!

And the walking stick for the senior and blind drivers?

 

Only your friend can decide, he should test drive the C and see if he likes it. If not, and he's a Honda fan he can check out the CR-Z with a stick! Driven carefully it can give high 30's to low 40's.

 

Toyota HSD does not use a transmission gear box with different speeds like 4 or 5 speed.

Here's a basic read on HSD.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive[/ame]


Let's see if can recall the basics - HSD replaces the traditional transmission gearbox, alternator and starter on a conventional car with a pair of motor generators, power-split gearset and hybrid battery for energy storage. the two MG's and ICE are conncected to the 'power-split' gearset and the arrangement acts as a continuously variable transmission with electronic control.

MG1 recharges the hybrid battery, powers MG2 and starts the ICE. MG2 can drive the wheels and convert kinetic energy to electrical energy. The ICE can also drive the wheels.

 

I'm sure you didn't offend anyone. It's just that some people have a pretty deep understanding of HSD and maybe have a strong reaction as a protection mechanism.

The way HSD works and drives is completely different than any conventional car I've driven. HSD offers a very pleasant and quiet experience for daily driving.

If your friend is looking for some sport on the road, a CT200h would work better for that. Or a CR-Z.

 

The only way to simulate gear-shifting in the Prius Hybrid Synergy Drive (with the ICE revving to a high RPM then suddenly drop down to low RPMs) would be to redline sun gear/MG1 (which is limited to 10,000 RPM) so not all of the engine's power at high revs is going to the ring gear/MG2/output shaft assembly.

One can see how that would work by using the Prius PSD simulator at Toyota Prius - Power Split Device -- Move the slider for ring gear/MG2/drive wheels to higher speeds, and then overrev the ICE to simulate the "shift shock" and see what it does to MG1 RPMs.

This is rather wasteful and kills the fuel economy, not to mention being hard on MG1 and the traction battery. Utterly useless.

It is rumored that Lexus will do this for the JDM CT200h F Sport. For the rich dumb people who want to pay to have this useless "feature" I guess. Being that the raison d' etre for Lexus is to make money, if rich dumb people are willing to buy more Lexii if they have such an idiotic feature, why not put it in LOL.

 

Something along the lines of an elliptical trainer might work. Peddle forward for a higher gear, and backward for a lower gear.

Steering and accelerator control would be with the arm "walking" sticks. Pull back on both sticks to accelerate, and push forward with both sticks to brake. Steer by differential between the sticks.

It would be a niche market, perhaps limited to retired bulldozer operators.

 

Hybrids use a CVT to hold rpm as low as possible, which maximizes mileage. Sports cars use manual transmissions and high rev shifts to maximize power. Opposite goals.

The OP asked a fair question. It was unnecessary to be rude to him.