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  1. Aaron Vitolins

    Aaron Vitolins Senior Member

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    Well my family and I just got back from a week long vaction in SC last night, this morning a went to start my lovely little prius. I got in and it powered right up (yay! i didn't have any doubt it wouldn't.. i mean come on its a toyota! :) ) but after 7 seconds the ICE fired up like normal except it sounded AWFUL!

    The gas engine sounded like a wild mustang bucking back and forth and loud knocking sound for the first 15 seconds or so. it was truly awful sounding! I just imagine scaring on the cylinder walls and such, in a way i feel guilty for starting it up, but it had to be done.

    i let the car warm up for about a minute or two before i drove away. the oil i at the proper level and the car was fully warm when i parked it, so the engine had stopped on its own before the week long sit.

    i can only imagine if this was in freezing weather and it had sat for more than a week. my oh my!

    Just wanted to share and see if anyone has had anything similar happen/or any advice maybe?
    it sounded like the mysterious engine knock on the gen. 3 Prius, maybe only worse
     
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    Your car probably had an engine misfire in one cylinder, due to a slight amount of moisture in a spark plug well. If it went away and does not come back then I would not be concerned.

    If it does come back, then check the tightness of the wiring harness connectors to the spark igniters and the fuel injectors.
     
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    Thanks! You know now that you say that, that's what it sounded like (running on 3 cylinders). But I have noticed when I start it up daily there is a ever so slight misfire right at first I think. Not real sure. It doesn't really run very smooth on initial start up.

    I use fuel injector cleaner and it got new spark plugs 30,000 miles ago
     
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    If you want to know what running on three cylinders sounds like, remove the connector to one of the spark igniters as the engine is running.
     
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    I've seen a video on YouTube of a Prius running on 3 cylinders, and I must say it sounded pretty similar
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    Sounded like that maybe more violent due to built up moisture from sitting for a week
     
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    Get mini-vci and see if any misfires are reported. If the plugs were replaced 30k ago it might be a coil.
     
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    I have thought about that but I don't have a PC or a laptop. Only have an iPad, android tablet, and android phone
     
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    Your Prius is suffering from "lot rot". Did you move the Prius shortly before parking it for a week? It is possible that the catalyst filled with vapor which condensed into a liquid.
    It started and shook because it needed to warm up and clear the cat.
    We all forget that the engine is an air compressor and pump. It can pull air in but if it can't push the exhaust out the tail pipe, it will run "funny" and possibly stall.

    Always drive your car, if possible, at a minimum of five miles ten miles is even better. Just my opinion, an old technician that did drivability for years.

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    Get torque pro and a bluetooth dongle. I think it also shows misfires. Add the prius pid settings to get a ton of readings.

    Thinking of that , it could also be a leaky injector that leaks fuel into the combustion chamber after it is parked. Who knows. It could be a million things.
     
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    How much misfire needs to happen before Prius throws a DTC code?

    I've occasionally felt some "rough running" from my ICE but it always resolves itself very quickly.

    My 2005 Prius with 83k miles still has the original OEM sparkplugs. Should I change them before too long?
     
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    It won't set a code right away, but with the proper diagnostics you can see the counters.

    83K it shouldn't be needed yet but you never know. It's an easy DIY job and doesn't cost much in parts. Use oem plugs and not some fancy advertised plug. Prevents possible issues.
     
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    The engine was hot when I parked it. I had read about this issue over the last year or so on here so I made sure not to do that. Still sounded horrible
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    I think I'll do that!
     
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    Got a Bluetooth obd2 and torque pro app. Still learning how to work it. Can't figure out the custom Prius PIDS though...

    No codes or anything, just had some fun looking at engine rpm while driving! Pretty cool
     
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    Amy ideas for things to do or look for? Thanks!
     
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    definitely get the custom prius pid's working, they give you a TON more data to look at.
     
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