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Got it!! My first Prius! (but needs some repairs/servicing)

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by c.ortiz108, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. c.ortiz108

    c.ortiz108 Junior Member

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    Finally got a Prius after what seemed like a long and sometimes aggravating search. I mentioned on another thread a 2006 pkg 3 with 96k miles from a private seller. They wanted $9,500 but agreed to a thousand off, but said would not take any more off for any repairs that might come up in Toyota's pre-purchase inspection. But after the inspection, when it turned out the car needed some work, he was fair enough to take another $500 off, so I got the car for $8,000. Not the deal of the century considering the repairs, but I really needed a car and the Toyota person thought it was a fair deal. The car runs perfectly - much smoother and better ride than others I tested, and is cosmetically almost perfect. Got 50 mpg on my way home! The seller threw in a few extras, too, like a Garmin nuvi GPS, and two winter tires.

    This what Toyota said the car needs, with their estimates:
    - Replace waterpump, drive belt, coolant: $560
    - Replace PCV valve, clean oil from intake and maf: $230
    - Transaxle service: $169
    - feathering on tires may suggest bad struts (or just tires need rotating) - no estimate yet, but suggests getting it checked

    I'm going to get a second opinion from an independent Toyota shop that was highly recommended, to see if they can do this stuff cheaper, and make sure it even needs to be done! Any opinions about these repairs? Do they sound reasonable on a car with these miles? Are the estimates over the top?
     
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    I would not do any of these items to begin with. The water pump should be OK, but maybe a recall item. Just watch for any leaks. Some pumps have been replaced with recalls . Check with good dealer and they can check and see what service has been done in the past. Pcv will be fine. Spark plugs will need to be change at about 125,000?. Get to know your new wheels and find out what you will need in the future by what you can learn on this sight. I would also leave the transaxle temporarily. These autos are very reliable. Congrats on your new purchase, h
     
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    Congrats! Welcome to the Prius family and the Prius Community… You'll learn a lot from all of the people here, out of most forums every one here is helpful and makes you feel like you're part of an online community.

    Poke around and ask questions… also like HaroldW said, get you know your new wheels… owning a Prius is unlike anything else…

    Enjoy and Congrats!
     
  4. c.ortiz108

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    Thanks, guys.

    The hybrid water pump was replaced under recall last year, so I think this is the engine water pump? I guess this one's not a recall.

    So what's the worst that could happen if I don't take care of this stuff right away, and how soon should I get it all done?

    Last oil change was 93,000 miles so I guess next one is due at 98,000. Should i wait until then to have the new service place check on the other stuff, and they can do the oil and rotate the tires at the same time?
     
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    If you use o-20 synthetic you are good for 10,000. The water pump seems to be a issue, but usually only evidence of rust. So watch the fluid. H
     
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    Congratulations on your purchase, it sounds like you got an excellent deal.

    Note that it is not safe to install only two winter tires on a front wheel drive vehicle. All four tires should be winter. Otherwise, you run the risk of oversteering, where the rear of the car will spin around as the rear tires lose traction.

    The 2G Prius is spec'd to use 5W-30 oil and the change interval is 5K miles.

    The transaxle ATF should be replaced now as a preventive maintenance measure. The price is a bit high, all that is required is 4 quarts of Toyota ATF-WS and a drain/fill operation.

    It is reasonable to replace the PCV valve at this odometer reading. The engine would benefit from cleaning the throttle body interior and throttle plate. Substantial dirt there will result in an engine no-start issue, especially on Classic - less so with 2G.

    The tire feathering does imply bad front wheel alignment, at minimum. At the odometer reading it would not be surprising if the front struts/rear shocks need to be replaced.

    You should not ignore the engine coolant pump issue. One person to whom you could ask the question about the urgency of the engine coolant pump replacement is the mechanic who looked at your car.

    The worst that could happen is that your engine will overheat, and if this continues to be ignored, the engine will be destroyed. Here is one recent example:
    Engine is Toast. Needs Replacement. HUGE$$$ repair bill. | PriusChat

    Here is an example of a relatively minor engine coolant pump leak. Nevertheless this needs to be fixed in the near future because there is actually enough leakage to splatter on the hood:
    ICE Water Pump Failure - Photos | PriusChat

    You could develop your own opinion about the seriousness of the issue by looking at the engine coolant pump for leakage and by monitoring the coolant level over time. Use only the correct pink Toyota Super Long Life Coolant to replenish the coolant.

    When checking engine coolant level, it is not sufficient just to look at the overflow reservoir. If there is a substantial leak allowing air into the system, fluid will not flow from the reservoir to the radiator. You must also open the radiator cap and look inside. To do this:

    Remove the large black plastic panel that covers the radiator, for access to the radiator cap. Then you can remove the cap and look at the coolant level within the radiator. The level must be at the very top of the radiator neck.

    To remove the large plastic panel, notice there are six plastic fasteners. Use a Philips screwdriver to rotate each fastener as you exert upwards pressure on the panel. The fastener will pop out.
     
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    Um. Yeah. That's one way of putting it. Wait til he finds out about the cost of the brake actuator going bad...
     
  8. c.ortiz108

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    Thanks for all the tips, Patrick - much appreciated. I'll check the coolant as you suggested, and think I'll be a lot more informed when I take the car in for servicing. Hopefully it won't be as a much as I was quoted at the pre-purchase inspection.
     
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    Whilst you can use 0w20 oil in a gen2, I personally wouldn't change from the thicker 5w30 oil in a car with such a high mileage.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     
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    The first three items on your list any mechanic can do. An engine coolant pump is under $50 and can be fitted in under 1 hour with the belt less than $10. The PCV valve is very cheap. The correct fluids can be bought on line or from the dealer, and going the independent route I would not expect to pay more than $560 for the three items including cleaning the MAF.
    Have the alignment done at a specialist shop that can also inspect the suspension.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    Thanks guys, much appreciated.

    Er, I got gas today for the first time and accidentally put regular unleaded, 86 octane, then later realized you're supposed to use 87 or higher. Would it be a good idea to put in some premium when the tank is about 3/4 full to balance things out? Also, what about the fuel and engine cleaning liquids they sell at hardware stores? Are they any good for the Prius?
     
  12. Patrick Wong

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    I assume that you live in a high-altitude area if 86 octane is considered regular. If true, then you don't have to worry about that. Otherwise you could mix some 91 octane fuel when the tank has some room.

    I would avoid the "fuel and engine cleaning liquids" unless the engine has a specific driveability issue.
     
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    Yes, I'm at 7,000 feet. In the future is it still best to use 87+ anyway?
     
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    I've noticed in places like Colorado and Utah, that 85 octane fuel is sold as regular. I haven't had any problem using that fuel in the mountains.