1. Offline

    jsfabb Active Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Posts:
    594
    Likes Received:
    142
    Location:
    Medford, NY
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I stopped on my way home from work last Friday at a small golf store. I happened to park next to another Black Prius. I asked the guy behind the counter whose it was and he said it was one of the owners. When the owner came back to the front I asked him how he liked his Prius.

    He said that it wasn't his Prius, he owned the 2012 Honda Insight which was parked a couple of spaces away. I asked him how he liked it. Proudly he said that he loved it and got 46 mpg. Kidding, I quickly said that if I got that bad a mileage with my Prius, I'd shoot myself.

    He asked what kind of mileage I got and I told him that my last tank was 58 mpg. You should have seen the look on his face. He said the reason why he went with the Honda is because everyone had a Prius! :)

    See change in RED.
    Last edited by jsfabb, Aug 7, 2012
  2. Offline

    gmcneil05 Junior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Posts:
    85
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Avon Park, Florida
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Who is everyone.
  3. Offline

    kalome Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Posts:
    386
    Likes Received:
    60
    Location:
    Arizona
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Did you ask if he hypermiled or is that normal driving without hypermiling?
  4. Offline

    KK6PD _ . _ . / _ _ . _

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Posts:
    3,578
    Likes Received:
    617
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    This has to be the most severe case of Dyslexia ever noted! His friends had Prius, he wanted a Prius, so he went to the Honda dealer!
    That 58 MPG remark was perfect! :p
  5. Offline

    Jonny Zero Giggidy

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Jun 22, 2012
    Posts:
    861
    Likes Received:
    166
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    Honda Insight also costs quite a few grand less and that a few grands would pay for a lot of gas.
    Silver bullit likes this.
  6. Offline

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Posts:
    5,566
    Likes Received:
    1,154
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I never insult other hybrid owners, even if they have an Insight <-> Prius dyslexia problem. An Insight is still a great FE leap over regular gassers.
    Silver bullit likes this.
  7. Offline

    Dmatt New Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Jul 9, 2012
    Posts:
    79
    Likes Received:
    9
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three

    True, but on hills it can't get out of it's own way. I work with a guy that has one and he hates driving it up the hill to our office ( 3850' climb over 20 miles)
  8. Offline

    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Posts:
    907
    Likes Received:
    173
    Location:
    Eau Claire, Wi.
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    My coffee buddy's son has a Honda Insight and gets 37-39 mpg in Minneapolis commute, He is not happy, has had it for about two years. He wanted the Honda because it look like a real car? not different like the Prius. He is sorry about His choice but lives with it, but He does complain a bit! :)
  9. Offline

    markabele Senior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Mar 27, 2012
    Posts:
    1,356
    Likes Received:
    185
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Your Vehicle Year:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Base Prius MSRP=$24,000 (50 MPG)
    Base Insight MSRP=$18,500 (43 MPG)

    If someone drove 15,000 miles per year with gas costing $3.60 the break even point would be over 31 years. This is of course without any hypermiling techniques.
    I think this illustrates the point that if someone is buying the Prius for financial reasons only, that hypermiling is an ABSOLUTE must.
  10. Offline

    kalome Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Posts:
    386
    Likes Received:
    60
    Location:
    Arizona
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    "I think this illustrates the point that if someone is buying the Prius for financial reasons only, that hypermiling is an ABSOLUTE must."

    You can also hypermile an Insight, so the difference will still be in the narrow 6-7 mpg range.
    You don't buy a $24000.00+ Prius for financial reasons only.
  11. Offline

    markabele Senior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Mar 27, 2012
    Posts:
    1,356
    Likes Received:
    185
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Your Vehicle Year:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I've heard it's easier for most people to do a little better with the Prius given some of the same hypermiling techniques, but have never had the pleasure of driving an Insight myself to confirm this.

    Also, I think you'd be surprised how many Prius owners think it's the absolute best choice financially.
  12. Offline

    Jonny Zero Giggidy

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Jun 22, 2012
    Posts:
    861
    Likes Received:
    166
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    Our public school system has failed to teach math.
  13. Offline

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    May 11, 2005
    Posts:
    12,361
    Likes Received:
    1,752
    Location:
    boston
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    on the whole, the actual selling prices of the two cars has been closer than msrp and there are many more advantages to the prius than just mpg's. funny, two comments i never thought i would hear, 'everyone drives one' and, ' it looks like a real car'. i rarely see the insight around here and to me, it looks just like the prius. i have to look twice because i thought i saw a prius, but something was not quite right.
  14. Offline

    jsfabb Active Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Posts:
    594
    Likes Received:
    142
    Location:
    Medford, NY
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    He said that he was very careful when he drove. When I asked him if he did P&G, he didn't know what it was until I explained it. Basically it sounded like he tried to accelerate carefully and glided into stops.
  15. Offline

    jsfabb Active Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Posts:
    594
    Likes Received:
    142
    Location:
    Medford, NY
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    See my change in my original post. I was in a hurry when I posted it and didn't proof read for clarity. I meant that everyone drives a Prius and he wanted something different. Sorry for the confusion!
  16. Offline

    chajones Junior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    May 19, 2008
    Posts:
    24
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Little Egg Harbor, NJ
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    I looked at an Insight before I purchased my 2010 Prius two years ago. The Prius is a larger car with much better acceleration. It is far more comfortable and will actually carry four people comfortably. Plus I average a little more than 50MPG, with a lead foot (I have 85,000 miles on my Prius) and the Insight does not get what Honda claims. At least in 2010 you could not get an Insight with many of the options the Prius provides. Yes, the Insight is a cheaper car, but it is much less car as well.
    markabele likes this.
  17. Offline

    kithmo Couch Potato

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Posts:
    313
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    South Yorkshire, UK
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius+ MPV
    Model:
    N/A
    IIRC the Insight cannot run on electric alone, I think the engine is always running when you're moving and only turns off after you stop. It's a motor assist, stop-start system with regenerative braking.
    Apparently the ride is harsh and the performance is lacklustre as well.
  18. Offline

    markabele Senior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Mar 27, 2012
    Posts:
    1,356
    Likes Received:
    185
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Your Vehicle Year:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I would assume you can glide with the ICE off otherwise it might not get as good of FE as it gets.
  19. Offline

    Jonny Zero Giggidy

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Jun 22, 2012
    Posts:
    861
    Likes Received:
    166
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Your Vehicle Year:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    Nope. The ICE is on as long as the vehicle is in motion, at least with the CVT version. Don't know about the manual version when you throw it into N while coasting.
  20. Offline

    markabele Senior Member

    Start a Conversation
    Member Since:
    Mar 27, 2012
    Posts:
    1,356
    Likes Received:
    185
    Location:
    Nebraska
    Your Vehicle Year:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Wow, I'm very impressed it gets that good of FE then.

Share This Page