Looks great! I had a CRX-HF and it got 48 mpg. Almost as good as my Prius, but only a 2 seater. I would be very intersted in this car as a hybrid!

I wonder where the battery pack will be. I wonder if the rear seats are foldable?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Oct 9 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]523196[/snapback]</div>

In my opinion, the CR-Z will have VSC. (VSC is Vehicle Stability Assist more generically known as Vehicle Stability Control.) I say this because all vehicles will be required to have Stability Control by 2012 because it has been mandated by the NHTSA. I see Honda getting ahead of the game because it will need to be designed into the car anyway due to the mandate. I doubt they will wait until 2012 to offer VSC for the CR-Z. Honda made VSC standard on all their light trucks in 2006 and it is standard on many of their passenger cars today.

Now CMBS is a different story. (Collision Mitigation Brake System) CMBS uses forward looking radar to see if you are approaching an object in front of you too quickly and applies the brakes if you don’t. It is designed to reduce rear-end collisions. I doubt it would make it on the CR-Z.

I wouldn’t want CMBS anyway. Yes, it would be nice if you happened to be absent-minded and came upon a line of stopped traffic. However, I see it as being potentially dangerous if you are squeezing into a narrow gap in traffic. For example, I have often needed to merge into traffic on the interstate with less than a car length in front and behind me at 70 mph. Would CBMS sense this close proximity as a potential collision and apply the brakes, causing the car behind me to rear-end me? I think I’ll keep decisions on braking to myself thank-you-very-much.

All in all I’m really excited about the CR-Z. It looks exactly like what I was looking for, a small, sporty car in a hatchback configuration. I’ll never have people in the backseat so as long as they fold flat it will work for me. It’s looking like I’ll have a few options to pick from in 2009 when I’ll need to replace my VW at about 250K miles. The short list:

Smart ForTwo
Honda CR-Z
BMW 320d (Diesel )

I kinda like the looks of that, on first impression, especially the roof. I see elements of the S2000 and the old CR-X in the design. I suppose Honda has passed over the CR-Y moniker for some crazy reason.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hyo silver @ Oct 9 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]523339[/snapback]</div>

Hmmmm... "Y" would that be I wonder.... Personally, I'm waiting on the first convertable hybred to get rid of my current Prius... jf B)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hyo silver @ Oct 9 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]523339[/snapback]</div>

....the second concept Honda revealed last night is the CR-Z -- a next-generation lightweight sports car concept that stands for "Compact Renaissance Zero"

http://jalopnik.com/cars/tokyo-auto-show/t...-car-308556.php

Looks nice though!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Oct 9 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]523407[/snapback]</div>

From a 2006 article. The proposed rule is now official.

"The proposed National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) rule would require all manufacturers to begin equipping passenger vehicles under 10,000 pounds with ESC starting with the 2009 model year and to have the system available as standard equipment on all vehicles by the 2012 model year or September 2011 when the model year begins.

NHTSA estimates that ESC will save between 5,300 and 10,300 lives annually and prevent between 168,000 and 252,000 injuries. ESC will prevent between 4,200 and 5,400 of the more than 10,000 deaths that occur each year as a result of rollover crashes, according to NHTSA.

NHTSA also estimates that ESC systems required by the proposed regulation will cost $111 per vehicle on vehicles that already include ABS brakes.

Ford Motor Co. has announced that it would put stability control on its entire lineup by the end of 2009 and General Motors Corp. is planning to have the technology on all vehicles by 2010. Several automakers have made ESC standard equipment on SUVs."

I don't see Honda falling behind Ford and GM making stability control standard on all their vehicles.

And front and rear parking impacts will be absorbed by...???

...Your bank account?

Just saw this -- interesting design, what little there is to see on the link.

Should be interesting to see how it comes to performance promises -- I like our Prius and don't miss too much the zippiness of the old car -- keeps my road rage in check. :blink:

http://green.yahoo.com/news/ap/20071009/ap...sports_car.html

Oops, just saw that I was scooped a few days ago -- apologies for the duplicate post.

the concept theme of the link is unmistakable (is that a word??, probably not... lets try undeniable?) wondering how much the real car would look like that. also to be honest with ya, after 19 pics, including one that shows nothing but a widescreen shot of what the logo might look like, i really dont have a good picture of what the car looks like....so will have to see. i have known a couple of the CRX's and they all were excellent commuter cars.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jack Kelly @ Oct 11 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]523902[/snapback]</div>

What do you mean?
Park by sight not by braile.

i think he meant front and rear collisions.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jack Kelly @ Oct 10 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]523902[/snapback]</div>

Its pretty standard for concept cars to ignore practical details like bumpers. It just confirms that this vehicle is still a design rev or two away from production.

Overall looks pretty promising. I think a lot of folks have been awaiting the return of the CRX.

Rob