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HOW-TO: Front bumper removal

Discussion in 'Prius c Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by SquallLHeart, Apr 11, 2012.

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  1. kkim

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    Well, I have an idea that the reason why Hondas were so popular back in the 80's and 90's was that anyone could buy a full factory service manual for about $100 back then. That everyone had access on how to fix and modify the cars is what I believe lead to the rise in garage modified import cars. Most were simply awful, but put the manuals with their very specific information in the right hands and some results were so spectacular, the factories would be proud.

    I think Toyota is missing a real asset by pricing the manuals outside of what the average owner would see as "normal".
     
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  2. SquallLHeart

    SquallLHeart The Techie Guy

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    with that in mind.. i wonder if you've checked the recent prices of Honda manuals... are they still $150?
     
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    It still is for the CR-Z that I intended to purchase last year, but decided against.

    Helm Incorporated: Search Results
     
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  4. SquallLHeart

    SquallLHeart The Techie Guy

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    so it looks like the Honda Service manual.. looks to be only 1/3 of the information that Toyota gives you.. then again... there are like 3 volumes in the Toyota one right??

    so.. at that point... theoretically speaking... the Service Manual for Toyota is like $200....? if that's split evenly between the volumes anyway.

    (when that person called (the one that mentioned it cost $600 total).. was it for all the repair manuals ONLY? or did it include the wiring diagrams too?).. i would say the Repair Manuals at most.. i would think would be like $300-400 for all three.

    Toyota has different sections... honestly the Repair Manual is something I wouldn't use too much unless it was mechanical/engine related... I'm more for the Wiring Diagrams.
     
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    The Honda manuals cover everything as well...

    Book includes Maintenance Schedules, Specifications, Troubleshooting, Special Tools, Removal/Installation, Disassembly and Adjustment. Repair instruction on Engine Electrical, Engine, Cooling, Fuel and Emissions, Transaxle, Steering, Suspension, Brakes including ABS, Body, Heating/Air Conditioning/Ventilation, Body Electrical and Restraints.

    Regardless, I'll not be purchasing the c manuals unless I can get them at a discounted price somewhere. $600 is way more than I'm willing to spend.

    Sorry to derail your front bumper removal thread... your access to the manuals and your willingness to share is much appreciated. :)
     
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    Do you have the correct procedure for the following:
    - replace the side turning indicator on the wing mirror
    - replace the horn

    Thanks in advance :)
     
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  7. SquallLHeart

    SquallLHeart The Techie Guy

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    the horn is easy... it's just removing the front bumper.. and you have access to it.

    the side mirrors.. just take off the painted cover, and the light assembly is just screwed in.
     
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    Thanks...
     
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  9. SquallLHeart

    SquallLHeart The Techie Guy

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    umm.. was there something else you were concerned or worried about that you wanted to know? if you're trying to do something specific.. i can help you out a little more.
     
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    Not really Ren, just trying to see if there is an easier way to access the horn, without removing the front bumper.. But I think you are right after fiddling around abit..
     
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    I checked a Cadillac shop manual on Helm and it's $200. I've owned these sets when I had my Caddys and they're very comprehensive.
     
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  12. SquallLHeart

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    the car's name is Ren.. mine is Trung :)

    but yea.. there's no access to the horn without removing the bumper.. i tried.. but at least the bumper isn't really difficult to remove.. i've already done it twice for different reasons.
     
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    My sincere apology on getting your name wrong..

    Another off topic questions, I am in thinking of swaping out the lightbulbs with LEDs.. Do you know what are the actual size of those bulbs used for tail light and reverse light? I think the turn signals are T20 and the front parking light, rear license plate light are T10...
     
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  14. SquallLHeart

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    the little small bulb in the headlight (which are the same size as the interior dome/map lights.. are 168/194.. as far as the turn signals up front.. i haven't really bothered to look as well as the ones in the back... i haven't seen many LED bulbs that are suited well to replace those areas and typically don't bother looking into changing them out.

    now that you mentioned it.. newer led bulb styles are available that might be ok.. i'll look later and post up the sizes.
     
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    SquallLHeart,

    how long does it take to remove it ? put back on?

    thanks
     
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    I trying to get an estimate to how much time I need to set aside to do the grill blackout project, whole morning, whole day, whole weekend, or take a week's vacation. I also want to make templates of the grilles, for next winter when I will need to do block out pieces.

    Your thoughts on how to do block out pieces that are removable from outside?

    logical
     
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  17. SquallLHeart

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    you can remove the bumper in like uh... 5 minutes?.. well.. I can anyway...

    i suppose maybe closer to 10-15 minutes for the average person... and about the same amount of time putting it back on.

    umm.. grill blackout? you mean a grille block?

    i made mine out of foam and installed them in the front... no bumper removal needed.. just cut to fit and put them in... and very easy to install and remove.

    if you look at my blacked out bumper picture in that thread, I did the upper grille block only.. because without a scanguage at the moment to monitor temps.. I don't feel too comfortable blocking out the bottom fully as well.

    it's just foam pipe insulation I got from home depot.
     
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    Many thanks, Trung, for the information you so freely share.

    By any chance did you notice whether the front Toyota badge (the one in my fuelly banner below) is attached with screws? None of the others are, but as I poked my fingers through holes and shone a flashlight into those holes, it appears it might be.

    If it is, I'll use your helpful bumper removal info, if not, I can save some time.

    Thanks in advance for any info you've got.
     
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  19. SquallLHeart

    SquallLHeart The Techie Guy

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    there are two screws that hold the emblem assembly in... then 4 claws.. and 2 guides... sure. lol.
    but yes.. 2 screws.

    if it's just the actual silver Toyota logo itself.. then I do believe it's just clipped into that assembly.. though i'm not sure how easy it would be to remove it without taking out the assembly..

    i'd be afraid to break those clips if you try to remove it forcefully from the front.. here's the backside of the assembly:
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    Thanks to your photo, I decided to just pull the badge from the assembly since the screws didn't affect the piece itself. The tabs did not break. I used a wooden ice cream bar stick shaved down a bit and it worked wonderfully to pry the part loose. All the other badges around the car are held on by that rubbery accessory adhesive. This one is not. No force is needed, just a little gentle persuasion.

    Sone paint and my goal was attained:
     

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